A Question on smoking weed

[Maddmatt]

Moderation.

I don't smoke weed but sometimes I drink at the end of a day to get rid of stress. I'll just have one or two drinks so I can chill, my brain can slow down, and I'll sleep better.

If a bit of weed makes your life better, enjoy it. Don't feel bad and just give the finger to ignorant people who judge you for it.
Just gotta remember moderation, you need to be able to go without it for a while without craving it.

I avoid the booze when I need focus, like studying. You gotta do the same with weed.

 

[copacetic]

As with any addictive substance there are the ups and downs. Too much is bad but some people can't help but over indulge.

My in laws are huge pot heads and it has pretty much ****ed their lives up (and their kids). They are moody unsocial unpleasant addicts. But that doesn't mean everyone gets like that.

Same with alcoholics, some are abusive some are not, some get uber depro some don't. All depends.

This is the bottom line, it is bad for you, but you will only see the effects of what you are doing in many years to come. When that day comes when you have either a stroke, heart attack etc then you will be able to answer the question whether it was worth it. For some the ride was worth it, some catch a huge wake up and change their lives but often it is to late.

Wat.

Cannabis is not physically addictive. People can indeed become psychologically addicted to it, but this goes for any pleasurable experience.

Also, I'd love some proof that cannabis leads to 'strokes and heart attacks later in life'. :wtf:

Cannabis is not harmless, certainly not, but I feel this particular picture you have painted is untruthful.

 

[copacetic]

II don't know ANYONE who has been "addicted" to weed. I don't crave it like alcoholics or heroin/crack/tik users crave their highs since THOSE substances (including sugar, coffee, coke etc) is highly addictive, even more so than weed.

I do know people who are addicted to weed. It's not a balls out physical addiction, but nevertheless, they need to have it.

 

[wrathex]

I do know people who are addicted to weed. It's not a balls out physical addiction, but nevertheless, they need to have it.

Yes and when they don't get, they're irritable for a day and then level out and are fine.

I have 30 years experience with weed.
It did not make me stupid.
It did not make me lazy.
It did not make me do crime.
My lungs are fine.
I am fine.

I will continue to use cannabis :

- to temper my mind state down from manic to normal
- to increase my appetite so I can eat
- to relax my body and mind

 

[copacetic]

Yes and when they don't get, they're irritable for a day and then level out and are fine.

I have 30 years experience with weed.
It did not make me stupid.
It did not make me lazy.
It did not make me do crime.
My lungs are fine.
I am fine.

I will continue to use cannabis :

- to temper my mind state down from manic to normal
- to increase my appetite so I can eat
- to relax my body and mind

Totally.

I'm just trying to temper the extremes of opinion people seem to have about cannabis.

On the one hand you have people saying it's as addictive as tik, and will most certainly kill you and enslave your mind, cause you to prostitute yourself, and blend up babies in a cement mixer in a paranoid frenzy, and on the other hand you have people who advocate cannabis as a wonder drug that could only possibly cause you harm if a bale of it fell on your head.

The truth is, that cannabis is not particularly harmful, but it is not completely harmless (very little of what we find pleasurable is) and I wish people could grasp this, and stop polarizing what is essentially a non-issue.

 

[Arthur]

I s'pose it depends how often and for what reason you smoke the stuff. Despite the law, I can't see a strict moral or medical prohibition on occasional and moderate use in a safe environment.

But it's not the same as a moderate amount of alcohol. Ask yourself this question: which would you rather see in the hands of a pilot on final landing approach in your Airbus A380? (a) a glass of whisky, or (b) a joint?

 

[copacetic]

I s'pose it depends how often and for what reason you smoke the stuff. Despite the law, I can't see a strict moral or medical prohibition on occasional and moderate use in a safe environment.

But it's not the same as a moderate amount of alcohol. Ask yourself this question: which would you rather see in the hands of a pilot on final landing approach in your Airbus A380? (a) a glass of whisky, or (b) a joint?

If it's his first glass of whisky and he's about to land, then the booze, as it will take longer to affect him (smoking a joint makes you stoned in a matter of minutes).

I'll take a stoned pilot over a drunk pilot any day though, although ideally, neither is better obviously.

 

[w1z4rd]

Drunk drivers are worse than stoned drivers (though you cant even have some tobacco on planes... dunno how a pilot is ganna hit a joint on a jet). If I saw a pilot with either weed or booze, I would report and sue.

 

[RaptorSA]

Doesn't sound to me like you have a problem at all. Just the normal pros & cons of smoking vs. not smoking.
Just obviously take a break now and then and stay clean so you can study etc.

If the weed can get you to do mundane tasks, stick with it. I know exactly what you mean. I haven't been a regular smoker in years, but I do take a drag now and then with friends.
Recently I've decided to get some good stuff so I can renovate my apartment while enjoying the experience.

I will say one thing though, don't do it ALL the time if you don't need to study or whatever, or at least don't smoke too much at a time.
I have a two friends who smoke regularly and lately it's been getting a bit on my nerves when they keep getting too wasted when we have a get together. A slight high makes people funny and interesting, massive highs make them sound retarded.

 

[hungrybeaver]

Not sure if this is allowed on the forum but here goes.

I have been smoking weed on and off for the last 10 years, I am 28 at the moment. I have been thinking about what affects it has on me after smoking it for so long and why I'm doing it.

What it seems to do is to keep my mind from working overtime, like for instance if I don't smoke at all then I find it hard to do anything mundane or stay at home but when smoking it's quite the opposite.

An example would be I would get stoned on an afternoon and then wash all the dishes, clean the kitchen, go to the gym, sort out admin and actually enjoy doing all of it.
If I don't get stoned I absolutely hate any sort of chores or work at home that's not necessary for my survival, most of the time I would just sit on MyBB or the internet and read endlessly.

One thing bad about smoking is that I cannot study at all when I'm stoned so when I have an exam coming up the only way I can pass is to stop smoking until I've written the exam, then I'll start again.

Now my question is, I feel it has some sort of benefit in my life and I'm not blind to the negative affects.

Do I keep smoking, do I quit, maybe try and figure out what is wrong with me?

I say keep on. Maybe slow it down a bit or chose the right times when to smoke, if you enjoy it and it's not having any adverse affects on you or those around you, you don't need to stop. lol doing chores is so much better when baked. You tell yourself I'm gonna do the dishes and you do them... and you enjoy it too.

I need something to keep me busy when I'm not stoned otherwise all I think about is how good a j would be right now.

Well smoking is bad mkay. Have you tried a vaporiser?

Vape rather.

Any recommendations? I was thinking about the MFLB as its nice and small, and cheap(ish). The vapes everyone seems to enjoy are $400+ :/. Is there any place local that supplies vapes?

Tried edibles last week and they were kak Going to attempt it again soon, this time with cannabutter.

Yes and when they don't get, they're irritable for a day and then level out and are fine.

I have 30 years experience with weed.
It did not make me stupid.
It did not make me lazy.
It did not make me do crime.
My lungs are fine.
I am fine.

I will continue to use cannabis :

- to temper my mind state down from manic to normal
- to increase my appetite so I can eat
- to relax my body and mind

Been a daily smoker for the last few years (nightly), and stopped a few days ago for a break. I found myself become more agitated for the first 2 days but now I'm OK. I'm toying with the idea of stopping the daily tokes and going for weekly rather as I need to concentrate on studies, so we'll see how that goes. Must admit its hard to break the habit of coming home and rolling one! I have found that I sleep better when I don't smoke if I need to wake up with an alarm. And if I toke up late at night I have a slight stoneover the next day which I dislike immensely.

 

[copacetic]

Tried edibles last week and they were kak Going to attempt it again soon, this time with cannabutter.

I have been stoned for a good 12-18 hours before, as a result of ingesting cannabis, so be careful.

 

[HeftyCrab]

Wait, what was the "bad side"/"negative consequences" again?

A large study was done in Holland that found that smoking weed greatly increases your chances of mental illness later in life.

 

[Bobbin]

Major medical sites seem to have a lot of negative reviews about weed to the point it seems a bit scary.

I have only ever been offered it once or twice at a like a music festival or whatever in my whole life. Did nothing to me but I was probably doing it wrong.

 

[RaptorSA]

A large study was done in Holland that found that smoking weed greatly increases your chances of mental illness later in life.

Now they just need the study that proves it decreases your chances of mental illness earlier in life

 

[grok]

A large study was done in Holland that found that smoking weed greatly increases your chances of mental illness later in life.

First butter wasn't healthier than margerine, then it was, then it wasn't again .. so I'm just gonna leave this here.

Dagga not linked to middle age mental decline

Participation of 8992 42-year-olds so also a large study.

 

[w1z4rd]

A large study was done in Holland that found that smoking weed greatly increases your chances of mental illness later in life.

I found a large study that says people randomly pretend there are studies supporting their point of view, but they wont share the source, because its not valid.

 

[copacetic]

A large study was done in Holland that found that smoking weed greatly increases your chances of mental illness later in life.

Link to study please?

It could well be, after all, cannabis is a psychoactive drug.

I'm more inclined to think that it's more likely to trigger preexisting mental conditions, or affect people already predisposed to those sorts of issues.

Another way to look at it is ask whether people with mental illness perhaps self-medicate with cannabis.

The best way to test? Examine populations with cannabis usage rates that are higher than others, and compare the rate of mental illness in the general populations, and see what the result is...

Even that would not be definitive (as there are many factors involved of course), but certainly far more robust than the conclusion you have just put forward.

 

[substance]

There's two types of weed. One that gives you energy (like you mentioned) and one that makes you chilled/lazy/sleep easy.

Those who says smoking weed makes you have a lack of ambition is smoking the wrong stuff for the wrong reasons.

For exams I'd smoke one of those that would relax you enough (I forgot if it was sativa or indica) to have a great night's rest AFTER you've studied (no smoking the one that makes you hyper MR!)

The rest (studying without weed/doing mundane tasks) all just comes down to you that got used to the extra "bump" you get from getting stoned. It's like a sugar/caffeine high (and trust me, both of those things, in too much quantity, is bad for you, unlike weed where it's impossible for you to overdose)

Push through the studying being your regular old self. Smoke it up (the right weed for the right time) afterwards to get a good night's sleep. Then in the morning before the exam smoke it up (again, the right weed for the right time) to get that energy boost

Nice, most people don't know about the types of weed.

PS: indica gets you stoned and sativa gets you high (gives you energy), but the strains can be fairly mixed these days and not as clear cut.

 

[Pavan]

Indoor only.

 

[noxibox]

Basic rule is that if you truly think it's interfering with your life, then it very likely is. If it's simply the use itself that is bothering you, then that might be nothing more than taking on societal disapproval. Don't let other people convince you that it's interfering with your life or that you have a problem if you don't agree.

You have realized the negative consequences of long term constant use of marijuana. The lack of ambition, the lack of deep sleep sleep (wake up cranky and are not happy until you wake and bake?), lack of dreams

I always wake up cranky and I don't use cannabis. Perhaps best that I not, as being more cranky in the morning will not improve my popularity.

Obama, Bush and Clinton smoked pot... but not while the hard work needed to be done.

For that Bush had cocaine.

I've often heard this claim about it suppressing dreams, but I've yet to meet a single person that has experienced this, or the claimed rebound dreaming on cessation of use. It presumably requires very heavy use. Or some natural sensitivity to this particular effect.