A Question on smoking weed

Pavan said:
It definitely suppresses dreams. Especially skunk.
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I can attest to this. Don't smoke for a night and dreams return.

*edit: I should rather say that I can remember the dreams when I wake up when I haven't smoked. I can't say if dreams stop when I smoke, but I definitely don't remember them.
 
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copacetic said:
Link to study please?

It could well be, after all, cannabis is a psychoactive drug.

I'm more inclined to think that it's more likely to trigger preexisting mental conditions, or affect people already predisposed to those sorts of issues.

Another way to look at it is ask whether people with mental illness perhaps self-medicate with cannabis.

The best way to test? Examine populations with cannabis usage rates that are higher than others, and compare the rate of mental illness in the general populations, and see what the result is...

Even that would not be definitive (as there are many factors involved of course), but certainly far more robust than the conclusion you have just put forward.
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Well I just stated what I read a while back. I tried adding something positive to the thread instead of just breaking down other posts.Im posting from a phone with opera mini 4 so cant copy/paste links. I am well aware that studies and their results can be interpretted in various ways but was just hoping that people wouldnt get hiffy fits if I didnt state it. A quick google will show many studies stating that weed is linked to mental illness. I assumed that the op didnt know about this (why else would he ask) and go research the point himself to make up his own point.

If people get threatened by the thought that them smoking dagga in any way doesnt damage them (youre inhaling smoke,wtf do you think is gna happen) or believe it doesnt then fine.go ahead and smoke it.
 
HeftyCrab said:
Well I just stated what I read a while back. I tried adding something positive to the thread instead of just breaking down other posts.Im posting from a phone with opera mini 4 so cant copy/paste links. I am well aware that studies and their results can be interpretted in various ways but was just hoping that people wouldnt get hiffy fits if I didnt state it. A quick google will show many studies stating that weed is linked to mental illness. I assumed that the op didnt know about this (why else would he ask) and go research the point himself to make up his own point.

If people get threatened by the thought that them smoking dagga in any way doesnt damage them (youre inhaling smoke,wtf do you think is gna happen) or believe it doesnt then fine.go ahead and smoke it.
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I wasn't asking because I was annoyed or anything, I just wanted to see the study.

I just have a small issue with the notion that cannabis causes mental problems, I think this is not something that has been shown to be true, and I would be cautious in suggesting such a thing.
 
cannabis does cause mental illness or rather acts as a catalyst for some people. it doesn't happen to everyone but it can happen and i suppose there's no way of telling whether you could be affected or not.
 
Pavan said:
cannabis does cause mental illness or rather act as a catalyst for some people. it doesn't happen to everyone but it can happen and i suppose there's no way of telling whether you could be affected or not.
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There is something of a difference between causing mental illness and acting as a catalyst for mental illness.

I think most people with predispositions to mental illness generally have a clue about this, whether from their current behavior, or from their genetic history.

Wheat has been linked to mental illness as well, and what irks me is people complain until they are red in the face about weed, but are as silent as can be about the dangers of wheat.
 
Pavan said:
It definitely suppresses dreams. Especially skunk.
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So-called skunk is just stronger. Like whiskey vs cider. In theory someone who wants to get as high as possible can more easily overdo it

hungrybeaver said:
*edit: I should rather say that I can remember the dreams when I wake up when I haven't smoked. I can't say if dreams stop when I smoke, but I definitely don't remember them.
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A lot of people say it doesn't do this to them. My guess it falls under possible side-effects, but is hardly a guaranteed consequence.

HeftyCrab said:
A quick google will show many studies stating that weed is linked to mental illness.
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You have to be careful what you read on that topic. It's not uncommon to find the anti-drug sites and newspapers all referring to one or two studies that they think back their point. Sometimes those studies don't even say what they think they do. Somewhere I recall some researchers going over a wide range of studies to look into this topic. That's probably the best way to get an idea of whether there is good backing for the belief and a reasonable indication of likely risk.

It reminds me of the bicycle helmet debate where the often quoted safety benefits are based on faulty research. And people believe a lot myths about the helmets and how they should work. Plus they know none of the risks. But you only find this out if you avoid the helmet advocacy sites and typical newspaper articles which blindly quote the poor research.

I do know somebody whose schizophrenia was quite possibly precipitated by cannabis. But maybe it only came on earlier than it would have otherwise.
 
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I never dream.

I'm forgetful, extremely.

I reckon I'm arguably mentally ill, borderline :p

Jeeze I wonder wtf weed would do to me :eek:
 
I generally don't smoke weed that often, maybe once every two weeks or so. This is due to two side effects - procrastination (during) and lethargy (after). I'm aware of the different types of weed like the ones that make you hyper instead... but I don't have that sophisticated of a dealer. I rely on Petros, our complex gardener (true story), and Lord knows where he gets his sh*t from.

Anyway, to answer OP, I have been smoking for about 6 years and have NEVER been "addicted". As far far as long term adverse effects goes, the most dangerous aspect is toxic smoke from when you don't clean weed properly or smoke poor quality/stale weed. This seriously *****s up your lungs... and I believe it's irreversible too.
Other than that, no mental illness has been proven to be linked with or caused by marijuana. Remember the old "Marijuana kills brain cells" myth from a few decades ago? Newer studies show them not only to be false, but quite the opposite. Read here - http://loopylettuce.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/marijuana-myth-marijuana-kills-brain-cells/

Personally, I feel that as long as alcohol is legal, weed should be too. It's actually a lot safer. With alcohol, you lose the abilty to make proper decisions. With weed, you can make proper, safe decisions... you just take awfully long to do it.
 
Hi Guys

Just to report back after reading all you comments and thinking about it I realized that it's affecting my sleep patterns quite a bit if I smoke a little bit everyday. For some reason I did not click this until actually talking about it. I don't remember it happening ever before but it seems to be happening now.

What happens is I sleep more hours but it feels like I'm not getting really deep sleep so I wake up still tired.

I've decided to quit and throw whatever I have away then I'll only smoke on special occasions like camping trips and so forth. I have managed to quit cigarettes 2 years ago so weed should not be that difficult.

Thanks for the advice :)
 
TheGuy said:
What happens is I sleep more hours but it feels like I'm not getting really deep sleep so I wake up still tired.
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If you consume any caffeine-containing products or alcohol be aware that both of those drugs can interfere with deep sleep. And smoking tobacco can reduce the caffeine half life, so stopping smoking while continuing to use the same amount of caffeine might increase the amount of caffeine in your body.
 
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