ADSL too expensive in SA

Jemsquash · Dec 16, 2003

Having come over on holiday to SA to visit my dad I thought it would be a good idea to get him broadband. However when I discovered the extortianate prices that Telkom were charging (more than double what I pay in England) I was horrified and decided to drop the idea.

I will not be subscribing to ADSL in SA until it is below R300 p/m all included (except set up costs).

Thanks for providing a great web site. I just wish more South Africans put in an effort like this.

VQuest · Dec 16, 2003

Well said Jemsquash.

No matter what Telkom's exuses are, their pricing is daylight robbery. There is actually no way they can justify such high pricing. We all know that bandwidth is expensive, but I can bet you we're paying at least 500% more than it costs them.

We're all waiting for some steady competition for Telkom....and it will come...then lets see them scramble for our support....but they won't be getting it.

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Myrrdin · Feb 4, 2004

Hi all.

Did anyone notice the mistake on the prices page on the Telkom website?

http://www.telkom.co.za/pricing/content/adsl.jsp

Apparently Telkom employees pay a staggering R320 for ADSL.

Wonder if they are capped hmmmmmmm.

Swonk taht eno ylno eht si nidrrym.

Myrrdin · Feb 4, 2004

PS

Probably cost + 10%

Making us pay cost + 10% plus 112.5% markup.

Swonk taht eno ylno eht si nidrrym.

Karnaugh · Feb 4, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Myrrdin
 Hi all.

Did anyone notice the mistake on the prices page on the Telkom website?

http://www.telkom.co.za/pricing/content/adsl.jsp

Apparently Telkom employees pay a staggering R320 for ADSL.

Wonder if they are capped hmmmmmmm.

Swonk taht eno ylno eht si nidrrym.
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You're welcome to go be a telkom lines man and earn carrots.

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antowan · Feb 5, 2004

Lets assume that Telkom gives ADSL to its staff at cost. Then they make more than 100% back in above cost gains!!!!!

That is just insane!!! Where the f**k is the competition???????????

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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jemsquash
 Having come over on holiday to SA to visit my dad I thought it would be a good idea to get him broadband. However when I discovered the extortianate prices that Telkom were charging (more than double what I pay in England) I was horrified and decided to drop the idea.

I will not be subscribing to ADSL in SA until it is below R300 p/m all included (except set up costs).

Thanks for providing a great web site. I just wish more South Africans put in an effort like this.

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He who does not understand the value of war at the right time, cannot comprehend the value of life at any time - Anonymous

doekvoet · Feb 22, 2004

Yes - the do pay R320pm for line rental as a staff benefit- but they have to pay the full ISP fee and are subjected to the same 3Gig cap.

I still believe no-one should pay adsl line rental on top of your already existing telephone line.

Sadad · Feb 24, 2004

Well I've decided. I'll sell my restaurant and internet cafe and become a Telkom employee, so that I can have low cost internet. WoW. Employees not being capped. Sounds hard to believe but if its true it's like saying to someone. Hey welcome to heaven and while you're here please look after all God's wives for him.....And have Fun.....Bye.

TELKOM NEEDS HELP

Tharaxis · Feb 25, 2004

As was stated, Telkom employees still have to pay the Telkom ISP charges, and are still subject to the 3GB cap. It's just their line rental which is less.

Gert · Mar 18, 2004

We use ADSL at work, thus far I am happy, but yes it is expensive, and I wil much rahter use wireless

grahambell · Apr 26, 2004

Now for just GBP 50/month you will soon be able to get a 3Meg connection with no Cap in the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3646825.stm
Makes you sick doesn't it [

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If ever there was an example of consumers benefiting from competition it is the difference between SA and the UK

Perhaps when all our politicians have finished celebrating tomorrow,they might just start attending to making us a more competitive country...nah perhaps not.
Off subject,in most democratic societies there is a ratio of 3 voters to every tax payer.
Guess what it is here
12 : 1

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kaspaas · Apr 26, 2004

[quoteOff subject,in most democratic societies there is a ratio of 3 voters to every tax payer.
Guess what it is here
12 : 1

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Where can I verify this statement?

Thanks

South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.

Batux · May 21, 2004

Hi 'yall,

Just for the sake of stats... South Africa is roughly 8 (eight) times more expensive that the world average when it come to dsl. There are companies in the UK offering adsl at less then 20 Pound a month, with a DAILY 1 gig cap! Now go figure...

wurm · May 21, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Batux
 Hi 'yall,

Just for the sake of stats... South Africa is roughly 8 (eight) times more expensive that the world average when it come to dsl. There are companies in the UK offering adsl at less then 20 Pound a month, with a DAILY 1 gig cap! Now go figure...
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DSL is taking of all over the world. HOW can SA progress if Telkom keeps putting a choke on SA communications.

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kaspaas · May 21, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wurm
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Batux
 Hi 'yall,

Just for the sake of stats... South Africa is roughly 8 (eight) times more expensive that the world average when it come to dsl. There are companies in the UK offering adsl at less then 20 Pound a month, with a DAILY 1 gig cap! Now go figure...
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DSL is taking of all over the world. HOW can SA progress if Telkom keeps putting a choke on SA communications.

Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation
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Please guys: You don't understand the democratic processes:

How dare you demand cheap ADSL if a vast section of the people don't even have telephones yet?

How dare you demand cheap luxury ADSL when people are dying of malnutrition?

Remember that we are living in a democracy where the people have spoken that the poor should be first priority.

Luxuries such as affordable broadband internet access means nothing if your stomach is empty. The people have spoken!

South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.

wurm · May 21, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by kaspaas
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by wurm
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Batux
 Hi 'yall,

Just for the sake of stats... South Africa is roughly 8 (eight) times more expensive that the world average when it come to dsl. There are companies in the UK offering adsl at less then 20 Pound a month, with a DAILY 1 gig cap! Now go figure...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

DSL is taking of all over the world. HOW can SA progress if Telkom keeps putting a choke on SA communications.

Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Please guys: You don't understand the democratic processes:

How dare you demand cheap ADSL if a vast section of the people don't even have telephones yet?

How dare you demand cheap luxury ADSL when people are dying of malnutrition?

Remember that we are living in a democracy where the people have spoken that the poor should be first priority.

Luxuries such as affordable broadband internet access means nothing if your stomach is empty. The people have spoken!

South Africa needs World Class Broadband at World Competitive Prices.
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I Understand your point. Though I have to disagree. Countries like Egypt have the same issues we do but there dsl line cost $18 US. Problem is that Telkom has full control over South Africas Tele Comms. What happens when a new party is introduced, that comes in with much cheaper solutions. Then What do we still say no thank you mr provider our people need to eat. We can make so much improvements to SA IT sector that can improve the economy of SA.

Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation

reech · May 21, 2004

I don't understand your version of democracy - and I don't see decent internet connectivity as a luxury - it's a modern necessity and driver of economic progress and enrichment for both the population and the government - much like transport.

mbs · May 22, 2004

What you guys fail to see is that KASPAAS is being an agent provocateur to stimulate discussion, and that his post is dripping with irony!! KAS - suggest you use some /asides or smileys appropriately...

wurm · May 24, 2004

Ok I may have went overboard with telkom, but hey. We need to have a better Broadband solution is SA. I mean How can we compete with Other Countries when telecoms is a mess Back Home.

Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation

mancombseepgood · Jun 1, 2004

Has anyone actually compared the home vs business prices from Telkom? Considering that most businesses claim back VAT, they are paying R701,75 pm to Telkom, while the home user pays the full R680 is it? WOW A WHOLE R21,75 pm SAVING - HOW GENEROUS TELKOM - THANK U OH SO MUCH WE ARE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL.

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