Adult ADHD

[Lupus]

Odd. Methylphenidate actually prevents you from sleeping it's actually designed for narcolepsy.

Difference is on an ADHD brain it actually smooths out the thought patterns and can make you relax, no more of your brain shooting in a 100 different ways. If you think of thoughts as a million little strings, mine all used to shoot off in a hundred different ways and it would make me stressed, with the meds those strings seem to start straightening out and go the way I want. I'm less irritable (still can be), less stressed, less anxious, hell I used to obsess about the freaking power situation in SA, haven't really for the last 2 months.

 

[RiaX]

Difference is on an ADHD brain it actually smooths out the thought patterns and can make you relax, no more of your brain shooting in a 100 different ways. If you think of thoughts as a million little strings, mine all used to shoot off in a hundred different ways and it would make me stressed, with the meds those strings seem to start straightening out and go the way I want. I'm less irritable (still can be), less stressed, less anxious, hell I used to obsess about the freaking power situation in SA, haven't really for the last 2 months.

Yes thats how the drug works my controling the brains firing but blocking neurotransmitters reabsorption specifically dopamine and NA making it a stimulant hence it shouldnt make a patient drowsy.

 

[Lupus]

Yes thats how the drug works my controling the brains firing but blocking neurotransmitters reabsorption specifically dopamine and NA making it a stimulant hence it shouldnt make a patient drowsy.

But it can, though it's rare but in humans there is always that 1%

 

[Zurg]

So recently went on to the generic oncerta to help out this, has anyone else had an adult diagnosis? I mean I'm 40 and the doc was like it's either ADHD or depression as both are similar in adults.
My symptoms were bruxism, anxiety, irritability and strangely enough not a real lack of focus, but if I hyperfocused that was all I did.
Since taking the meds my brain does feel like there is less clutter, when I drove I was always thinking about things, talking to myself trying to get things through my brain, yet still irritated with bad driving. Now it's weird I still can think about things but it's more clear more concentrated, I don't talk to myself as much and my irritation in general does seem to be less. Though after it's worn off at around 6pm it slowly comes back :-(.
Anyone else with ADHD diagnosed later?

Okay, this is my own experience.
Ritalin/Concerta can worsen depression and your mental state.

Doc's are very quick to jump to ADHD and prescribe medication imo.

Obviously your doc knows you better than I do and I'm not a medical professional but after taking both of those at different times, I used to feel a sort of crash/sadness, very similar to when consuming other narcotics.

Personally I don't believe methylphenidate helps with attention span, I think it turns you into a sort of robot. It made me irritable and aggressive and there's always this feeling of urgency but it's not going to stop you from procrastinating.

 

[Lupus]

Okay, this is my own experience.
Ritalin/Concerta can worsen depression and your mental state.

Doc's are very quick to jump to ADHD and prescribe medication imo.

Obviously your doc knows you better than I do and I'm not a medical professional but after taking both of those at different times, I used to feel a sort of crash/sadness, very similar to when consuming other narcotics.

Personally I don't believe methylphenidate helps with attention span, I think it turns you into a sort of robot. It made me irritable and aggressive and there's always this feeling of urgency but it's not going to stop you from procrastinating.

That sounds like you don't have ADHD then

 

[Zurg]

That sounds like you don't have ADHD then

If you met me you'd say otherwise. It's present on both sides of the family. I stopped taking it because coming down was rough.

 

[Lupus]

If you met me you'd say otherwise. It's present on both sides of the family. I stopped taking it because coming down was rough.

Anxiety can also be similar in some ways, ADHD also doesn't always manifest in that twitchy way people think it does, often times it's weird subtle signs. I know when it's worn off and once or twice I've had an irritable crash, but nothing bad, look it's only been a month. I don't feel robotised like I did on urbanol.

 

[Mars]

My son was assessed, and he is on anxiety meds and a concerta generic. The positive effects where astounding, so my wife pushed me to go as well.

I have been on it for about two months now and its making a huge difference. I feel motivated, anxiety is down, overall a massive imporement in quality of life for me. I was diagnosed with IBS in the past, but I'm starting to think it was the constant anxiety all along.

Okay, this is my own experience.
Ritalin/Concerta can worsen depression and your mental state.

Doc's are very quick to jump to ADHD and prescribe medication imo.

Obviously your doc knows you better than I do and I'm not a medical professional but after taking both of those at different times, I used to feel a sort of crash/sadness, very similar to when consuming other narcotics.

Personally I don't believe methylphenidate helps with attention span, I think it turns you into a sort of robot. It made me irritable and aggressive and there's always this feeling of urgency but it's not going to stop you from procrastinating.

It definitely does not work the same for everyone. There is no silver bullet for this kind of thing. There are alternatives that you cant try.

 

[Zurg]

My son was assessed, and he is on anxiety meds and a concerta generic. The positive effects where astounding, so my wife pushed me to go as well.

I have been on it for about two months now and its making a huge difference. I feel motivated, anxiety is down, overall a massive imporement in quality of life for me. I was diagnosed with IBS in the past, but I'm starting to think it was the constant anxiety all along.



It definitely does not work the same for everyone. There is no silver bullet for this kind of thing. There are alternatives that you cant try.

Interesting, Concerta was much more manageable, Ritalin was too hardcore, it sent my anxiety through the roof.

 

[RiaX]

I only used it for a week and then thought **** it. Maybe I should have continued a while longer

Psych drugs take long to work. Some of them can take up to 3 weeks before you even notice a change.

Sometimes you won't even notice a change you will just find yourself having many better days than bad days. That's the drug doing its thing

 

[RiaX]

Stop feeding your brain with dopamine all the time. Get disciplined. Don't eat junk, do weights daily and train, get proper sleep and meditate daily. Learn about nootropics and start out with lion's mane & L-Theanine. Go from there.
It's ALL about discipline. Cut out all porn, drugs of any sort (esp big pharma) and be aggressive with not watching TV, delete social media from your life and when you work only have the job on the table - no browser open, no distractions. One needs to learn to focus and train your brain's reward system properly. We are primal animals and one needs to understand the mechanics of this.
If you want to get serious be serious.

Good Lord. You want him to live in cave then ?

And the dopamine circuit is malfunctioning if the diagnostic is correct. So treatment is required to survive the modern world.

Why don't you go to a disabled centre and tell the paraplegics to stand ? Somethings are simply not possible without medical intervention.

 

[Zurg]

Stop feeding your brain with dopamine all the time. Get disciplined. Don't eat junk, do weights daily and train, get proper sleep and meditate daily. Learn about nootropics and start out with lion's mane & L-Theanine. Go from there.
It's ALL about discipline. Cut out all porn, drugs of any sort (esp big pharma) and be aggressive with not watching TV, delete social media from your life and when you work only have the job on the table - no browser open, no distractions. One needs to learn to focus and train your brain's reward system properly. We are primal animals and one needs to understand the mechanics of this.
If you want to get serious be serious.

I do an icebath to exercise willpower.

 

[RiaX]

Interested in this, as we just put my litey on a trial of ritalin for a few weeks. He was prescribed 10mg but we gave him half a tablet for the first week, tomorrow will be his first full dose.

We got to this point after and still going through all the external assistance he needs, OT, PT, ST, psych, Paed, neuropead..

Paed had told us not to tell the teacher for the first week to see if they picked up difference. When I told him earlier this week, he was surprised. He said he didn't notice anything different in class, but at home , we notice he is not always making funny noises, etc.

He has focused a bit more.

I really don't want him to be on this thing but even the teacher had said that his 9 year old son was on same and made a massive difference.

Of course , I think we need to focus on perhaps other environmental factors - less TV and more real exercise (though my litey never stops moving unless TV is on).

Good luck to Lupus all that live with it - can't imagine how it feels

You will see it in the report card. Pay attention to academic performance. If you see a better performance then you'll know. Try not pushing different homework schedules it's early he can afford to be with minimal intervention. This way you can isolate the ability of concentration.

Interesting, Concerta was much more manageable, Ritalin was too hardcore, it sent my anxiety through the roof.

They doing a trial run usually we start with Ritalin plain in doing the diagnostic and finding the total qty of Ritalin to use before switching to the slow release Concerta or Ritalin LA

 

[RiaX]

But it can, though it's rare but in humans there is always that 1%

Ofc but I tend to put those type of experiences to placebo.

It appears to be downer because of the focus it generates versus the thoughts flying in every direction. However that's not the case.

Can never discredit fully something a patient tells you they experience

 

[Lupus]

Ofc but I tend to put those type of experiences to placebo.

It appears to be downer because of the focus it generates versus the thoughts flying in every direction. However that's not the case.

Can never discredit fully something a patient tells you they experience

nope you can't, each person is different and their bodies will handle things differently, I've heard stories about some guys who do go down and agro on the meds and others who go robotic.

 

[Lupus]

Good Lord. You want him to live in cave then ?

And the dopamine circuit is malfunctioning if the diagnostic is correct. So treatment is required to survive the modern world.

Why don't you go to a disabled centre and tell the paraplegics to stand ? Somethings are simply not possible without medical intervention.

I wouldn't mind living in a cave with power.
But yeah it's weird how some people do treat mental illness.

 

[Lupus]

Psych drugs take long to work. Some of them can take up to 3 weeks before you even notice a change.

Sometimes you won't even notice a change you will just find yourself having many better days than bad days. That's the drug doing its thing

Anti-depressants have to be weaned off of cause of that reason, but yeah first week didn't see much, but over time there has been some improvements.

 

[Mars]

Interesting, Concerta was much more manageable, Ritalin was too hardcore, it sent my anxiety through the roof.

AFAIK the main difference between Ritalin and Concerta is mechanical. The concerta has a timed release. The active ingredient is the same.

 

[Zurg]

AFAIK the main difference between Ritalin and Concerta is mechanical. The concerta has a timed release. The active ingredient is the same.

Yeah they said it's coated in something to slow down the release of the chemical.

 

[RiaX]

Yeah they said it's coated in something to slow down the release of the chemical.

The tablet digests slower. So it disintegrates much slower than a conventional tablet. You get many types of tablets.