Advertisements for abortion

-Unless the woman's life is in danger
-Unless she cant afford to feed the child
-Unless the child is going to die
-Unless the mother is going to die


There are a million reasons
 
In another case someone got raped & impregnated... the family refused her the option of an abortion, said they'd take care of the child themselves. Their Christian values forbid abortion.

Nice people.... we need more of that.

Then the kid finds out that the were the product of rape and commit suicide...
 
In another case someone got raped & impregnated... the family refused her the option of an abortion, said they'd take care of the child themselves. Their Christian values forbid abortion.

Took 41 posts to finally bring the C word into the debate.
 
*nod* I agree with you, I believe it may help scared women who feel the need to go though with it feel less ostracised by society and not get guilt-tripped into having a child they don't want and won't be able to look after properly.

I think most woman has a difficult time believing that there are woman that just do not want or need children. I'm one of those. I have no need for children. I do not get why you would want them.
So I should rather go to a convent and never have nookie? I think not. Yes I’m older and wiser. Taking away abortions will only open the black market and horrible things will happen.
You are not here to judge.

Yes we need to educate young woman about choices. WE should put them on the pill and freeze their eggs and reproductive organs until they are sure.
You will not stop people from having sex. And the only way to stop un wanted children is to either stop shagging or stop people's reproductive organs.
 
Nice people.... we need more of that.

Then the kid finds out that the were the product of rape and commit suicide...

+10 the scars you inflict on children by giving them away not wanting them is just as cruel. Imagine living with the fact that your mother never wanted you. You were such a horrible idea she gave you away. Nice feeling.
 
-Unless the woman's life is in danger
-Unless she cant afford to feed the child
-Unless the child is going to die
-Unless the mother is going to die


There are a million reasons

Sure just do what's convenient for you.

The only valid reason in my opinion is if the mothers life is in direct danger if the child is not aborted.

If the child is a result of a unwanted pregnancy or rape, there is always adoption...

Frankly if a couple is stupid enough to not take the proper precautions then they should have to live with the consequences of their actions. I accept there are the occasional cases where precaution is taken by still pregnancy occurs, but then there is always adoption again.

I know this is a sensitive topic, especially for women, and I don't know why it angers me so much that it happens. I know my comments may make me sound a little insensitive or judgemental, but that is really not my aim. I know people who've gone that route and I don't judge them for it. I just really disagree with it, and think putting these ads on TV make things so much worse.
 
But sure why not put ads up for the murder of unborn children on publicly funded channels.

abortion is murder.

same thing if you pulled the foetus from the mother's womb and shot it with a 12 guage shotgun.
At what point would you classify it as a human being, that would make it murder?

What about all those poor dead sperm after you've blown your load? So not only are you a murderer, but a mass murderer at that!
 
Sure just do what's convenient for you.

The only valid reason in my opinion is if the mothers life is in direct danger if the child is not aborted.

If the child is a result of a unwanted pregnancy or rape, there is always adoption...

Frankly if a couple is stupid enough to not take the proper precautions then they should have to live with the consequences of their actions. I accept there are the occasional cases where precaution is taken by still pregnancy occurs, but then there is always adoption again.

I know this is a sensitive topic, especially for women, and I don't know why it angers me so much that it happens. I know my comments may make me sound a little insensitive or judgemental, but that is really not my aim. I know people who've gone that route and I don't judge them for it. I just really disagree with it, and think putting these ads on TV make things so much worse.

It's not your aim, just what you are.
 
At what point would you classify it as a human being, that would make it murder?

What about all those poor dead sperm after you've blown your load? So not only are you a murderer, but a mass murderer at that!

/charging you with genocide. :D
 
Yes, but is it an informed choice? Without councilling? Knowing the stages of fetal development? They are presenting it, not as an option, but as a "get out of jail free" card. Abortion has a lot of far reaching consequences for the woman physically and emotionally. It is not an easy decision to make and live with.

You haven't even seen the ad. You're making the assumption that they're presenting it that way.

Their "informed choice" will be where to get it done safely. Not about whether to do it or not. That's what counseling is for. If a woman doesn't know what to do she seeks some.
 
I know this is a sensitive topic, especially for women, and I don't know why it angers me so much that it happens. I know my comments may make me sound a little insensitive or judgemental, but that is really not my aim. I know people who've gone that route and I don't judge them for it. I just really disagree with it, and think putting these ads on TV make things so much worse.

How, exactly?
 
Lots of terms and conditions to peoples views on abortion. "If she was raped", "if she will die", "if the baby will die"

Biggest question is "when is it a person".

Here are the options:
1. Every month an egg is released, dies and removed from the body. So simply, women murder their "children" every 28 days [as per text book].
2. As soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg. This case the egg is still... an egg. With no human traits, it's hard to justify if this egg is any more "alive" than a non-fertilized egg. Even in these situations, if the egg doesn't embed itself properly, the body will still remove it. Murder again; or does Nature taking it's course justify this 'death'?
3. Soon as there are nerves? Well, this is more justifiable as being "Cruel". Is that brain activity really a 'person' or just random firings of electric current?
4. Soon as noticeable brain activity? But how much do you remember when you were 1 month old - is it really defining enough as a personality?
5. Only once the baby is physically detached from the mother can it be considered a person. It's a strange argument that goes something like "it grows as a part of you, so you can decide what to do with it". And as insensitive as it sounds, it relates to getting a wart removed - it's growing on you, it is you - is it murder to kill those cells that are you?

Are you allowed to abort a child that is sick? Does that mean I can "murder" anyone with AIDS? Or a grandparent who is terminally ill? Is sickness REALLY a justifiable excuse to 'murder'?

All hard questions, and you'll notice I answered none of them. It's up to a person's own perception what is the right and even if the choice should be offered.
 
If the child is a result of a unwanted pregnancy or rape, there is always adoption...

Yes be pregnant for 9.5 months then give it away as if people will judge you less.
Yes you want a rapist baby growing in you for 9 months stuffing up your body, making you sick giving you heart burn, stretch marks all for a rapist baby.
Oh then lets have it in a hospital at astronomical amounts go through labour tear your vijay jay apart never to be the same all for a man you hate.
Great plan put it in a foster home for adoption. Let’s hear from people adopting babies..is it a matter of getting a pregnant woman and adopting? one two three. Easy peasy?

Easy for a man who will never to be in this situation to judge.
 
Great plan put it in a foster home for adoption. Let’s hear from people adopting babies..is it a matter of getting a pregnant woman and adopting? one two three. Easy peasy?

Adoption used to be an easy option, not any more. The laws have become far more complicated nowadays.
I was adopted at birth, (1964) it was simple for my birth mother who had no choice (family pressure) , she wasnt allowed to marry the father, as his family and hers were against it, so adoption was the only option.
For me as the child in question it was simple, i was handed over to my adoptive parents and that was it, my birth mother could not find me and was not allowed by law to do so.
I as the adopted child was the only person allowed to initiate contact if i so wished, but only from age 21, and after the required counselling with a social worker. It took me to the age of 35 before doing so, as i wasnt really interested before.
Nowadays however the birth mother can initiate contact if she desires, and at any time, plus in some places if the birth mother wishes to now take her child back , she is allowed to under certain circumstance.
That is just wrong in so many ways for a young child to have to endure, especially if that child has formed a bond with their adoptive parents, and is at an age where they are too young to understand what is happening. The trauma induced by this sort of action is completely off the scale.
Foster care may sound fine , but it is not always so, too many children land up in foster homes, and get shunted from home to home , as the state sees fit, seldom do the children ever land up staying in one home for too long.
The waiting lists for adoption are also long , this is due to state initiated red tape, and also to parents who wish to adopt looking for the "perfect" baby, a certain look, or a certain type (race), or coming from a certain background, and other more selfish, bigoted reasons.

We live in an over crowded, over populated world, where careful consideration should be given to having a child or giving birth, from the finacial affordability, to the consideration of what future that child will have regards to education and quality of life.
It is imperative that women have the right to terminate a preganancy, if they feel that they cannot provide comfortably for that child, and provide a safe and secure future, having the option to counselling, and safe termination, is a far safer alernative, and a more humane alternative than subjecting some future child to a life of possible poverty, misery and simple existence as just another mouth to feed on an over-burdened society.
 
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