Advice Needed: Credit Score

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Guys,need advice on credit score. Is is absolutely necessary to have a credit card and clothing accounts to gather a credit score that would make getting a home loan possible?

I currently have had car finance which was fully settled. Cell phone and internet contracts which are still running as well as car insurance

Would what I have currently not make me eligible for a home loan?
 
Guys,need advice on credit score. Is is absolutely necessary to have a credit card and clothing accounts to gather a credit score that would make getting a home loan possible?

I currently have had car finance which was fully settled. Cell phone and internet contracts which are still running as well as car insurance

Would what I have currently not make me eligible for a home loan?

Who knows....

The info you provided is nowhere near enough to determine if a bank would be happy to deal with you or not.
 
Guys,need advice on credit score. Is is absolutely necessary to have a credit card and clothing accounts to gather a credit score that would make getting a home loan possible?

I currently have had car finance which was fully settled. Cell phone and internet contracts which are still running as well as car insurance

Would what I have currently not make me eligible for a home loan?

If you can get a cellphone contract in addition to the other things you mentioned, you're probably ok.

Some people even get denied cellphone contracts due to a bad credit score.
 
Car finance and cellphone will be fine. Provided you always paid on time
 
Guys,need advice on credit score. Is is absolutely necessary to have a credit card and clothing accounts to gather a credit score that would make getting a home loan possible?

I currently have had car finance which was fully settled. Cell phone and internet contracts which are still running as well as car insurance

Would what I have currently not make me eligible for a home loan?

Transunion (http://mytu.co.za)
Your score should be 850+ to qualify. The higher score + lower expense = Better interest rate.
Some banks accept 750 but you will get a crappy interest rate(p+4%) and will require a huge deposit.

Experian - https://www.creditexpert.co.za/ a score of 1 or 2 to qualify.

Sadly I don't know the Compuscan and XDS. The last I work with Compuscan was above average rating and forgot how XDS was implemented.

Banks usually do checks on 2 Bureaus for home loans.

The score is a guideline and will not guarantee approval.
Real calculations - Most common NOT COMPLETE LIST.
The below is for affordability.
Your expense/income ratio should be low(less 0.5) and 30% of Gross Income should be the max installment. If you paying rent and it recorded in rental Bureaus, some home loan companies require to tick a checkbox to say it's primary or something to that effect, by default bank ignores rental bureaus for home loans or ignores the first entry. The system I work before we ignored the first entry but trigger a warning for call manager to confirm if the rental amount was primary or secondary.

:)

The Below is for risk.
The following will increase your risk.
Having 2 or more credit cards.(1 for each)
Having a credit card with 90%+ balance.(Seriously, if you have 5000 limit and use 4800 you more risky then a person with 50000 credit card but with limit 56000).(1)
Personal loan(1 for each)
Revolving Loan(1 for each)
Temp Loan(1 for each)
Store accounts with 80%+ balance(1 for each)
Having used 100%+ of any credit facility(1 point additional per account)
if risk is 5 or greater your chances of getting approve is slim.


The below is behavior. You need 5+ to qualify
Paying account up to date for 3 month(1 point each account)
Paying account up to date for 6 months(2 points each account)
Paying account up to date for 12 months(3 points each account)
Paying a contract/loans 3 or more months up to date(1 point)
Paying a contract/loans 6 or more months up to date(2 points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 90%(2 Points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 80%(3 Points)
(The credit card only need to reflect the balance of the last month to achieve the points, so 0%, 100%,100%, 90%, 70%, 60%(last statement before you apply) )
Having a Default or Judgement automatically disqualifies you.
Having non payment has huge negative impact and takes 2 years to not impact score(I think they made it one year with new NCA)

The below does not effect your credit score/risk/behavior but only calculated against your affordability.
Short term insurance.
Some contracts(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
Telephone account(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
DSTV(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)


So Affordability + Behavior + Risk + No Default/Judgement = Pre-Approved.

Other factors, home valuation, area and lastly your work position. Basically Fraud prevention.

So to answer your question yes. You need 2 active accounts. No account = No Behavior = Low Score = .......
Credit card(55 days interest free + earn rewards) is good since it gives you good points after 6 months, having just one credit card is perfect. Set up 100% payment on statement option.
A clothing account(Markams 6 month interest free), you buy R100 and pay in 5 months. the 6th month your score jumps up. Since you paid more then installment and on time.

I know the system is stupid but that how it is. You need debt to get more debt :P.
 
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Guys,need advice on credit score. Is is absolutely necessary to have a credit card and clothing accounts to gather a credit score that would make getting a home loan possible?

I currently have had car finance which was fully settled. Cell phone and internet contracts which are still running as well as car insurance

Would what I have currently not make me eligible for a home loan?

Do you know what your current scoring is? ;)

Can get your free (or paid-for reports with scoring) from the below websites:

Transunion (have to pay for scoring, free report doesn't have scoring):
https://mytransunion.co.za/

Experian (free report has scoring):
https://www.creditexpert.co.za/

XDS (free report has scoring):
http://www.credit4life.co.za/

Compuscan (have to pay for scoring, free report doesn't have scoring):
https://www.mycreditcheck.co.za/

For a paid credit report that checks XDS, Transunion and Experian at R79 you can go to any Checkers or Shoprite MoneyMarket counter or you can do it online:
http://www.kudough.co.za/shoprite_partner.aspx

For a paid credit report that uses all 4 the credit bureaus mentioned you can use the below link to buy it online for R99:
https://www.credithealth.co.za/compl...dit-report.htm
 
Wow guys,now that's an explanation I was looking for. Thank you so much.


I did request a trans union free report some time last year and of course did not get the scoring. Would there be any negative impact of me requesting a scoring report now from any of the other sites mentioned? I was told that too many queries of credit scoring counts against you? I could be speaking utter rubbish,its just what I remember being told or thereabouts
 
Wow guys,now that's an explanation I was looking for. Thank you so much.


I did request a trans union free report some time last year and of course did not get the scoring. Would there be any negative impact of me requesting a scoring report now from any of the other sites mentioned? I was told that too many queries of credit scoring counts against you? I could be speaking utter rubbish,its just what I remember being told or thereabouts

Your own checks at different providers will not affect it at all. They don't know that our checking at the others anyway, and the scoring each one does on their own.
 
Wow guys,now that's an explanation I was looking for. Thank you so much.


I did request a trans union free report some time last year and of course did not get the scoring. Would there be any negative impact of me requesting a scoring report now from any of the other sites mentioned? I was told that too many queries of credit scoring counts against you? I could be speaking utter rubbish,its just what I remember being told or thereabouts
Checking score on Transunion, XDS, Experian and Compuscan will not impact your score or even show on your report.
Not sure about credithealth and kudough.co.za. Last I tried there were listed under "YOUR ENQUIRIES" and affected score if many was done.
 
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Transunion (http://mytu.co.za)
Your score should be 850+ to qualify. The higher score + lower expense = Better interest rate.
Some banks accept 750 but you will get a crappy interest rate(p+4%) and will require a huge deposit.

Experian - https://www.creditexpert.co.za/ a score of 1 or 2 to qualify.

Sadly I don't know the Compuscan and XDS. The last I work with Compuscan was above average rating and forgot how XDS was implemented.

Banks usually do checks on 2 Bureaus for home loans.

The score is a guideline and will not guarantee approval.
Real calculations - Most common NOT COMPLETE LIST.
The below is for affordability.
Your expense/income ratio should be low(less 0.5) and 30% of Gross Income should be the max installment. If you paying rent and it recorded in rental Bureaus, some home loan companies require to tick a checkbox to say it's primary or something to that effect, by default bank ignores rental bureaus for home loans or ignores the first entry. The system I work before we ignored the first entry but trigger a warning for call manager to confirm if the rental amount was primary or secondary.

:)

The Below is for risk.
The following will increase your risk.
Having 2 or more credit cards.(1 for each)
Having a credit card with 90%+ balance.(Seriously, if you have 5000 limit and use 4800 you more risky then a person with 50000 credit card but with limit 56000).(1)
Personal loan(1 for each)
Revolving Loan(1 for each)
Temp Loan(1 for each)
Store accounts with 80%+ balance(1 for each)
Having used 100%+ of any credit facility(1 point additional per account)
if risk is 5 or greater your chances of getting approve is slim.


The below is behavior. You need 5+ to qualify
Paying account up to date for 3 month(1 point each account)
Paying account up to date for 6 months(2 points each account)
Paying account up to date for 12 months(3 points each account)
Paying a contract/loans 3 or more months up to date(1 point)
Paying a contract/loans 6 or more months up to date(2 points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 90%(2 Points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 80%(3 Points)
(The credit card only need to reflect the balance of the last month to achieve the points, so 0%, 100%,100%, 90%, 70%, 60%(last statement before you apply) )
Having a Default or Judgement automatically disqualifies you.
Having non payment has huge negative impact and takes 2 years to not impact score(I think they made it one year with new NCA)

The below does not effect your credit score/risk/behavior but only calculated against your affordability.
Short term insurance.
Some contracts(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
Telephone account(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
DSTV(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)


So Affordability + Behavior + Risk + No Default/Judgement = Pre-Approved.

Other factors, home valuation, area and lastly your work position. Basically Fraud prevention.

So to answer your question yes. You need 2 active accounts. No account = No Behavior = Low Score = .......
Credit card(55 days interest free + earn rewards) is good since it gives you good points after 6 months, having just one credit card is perfect. Set up 100% payment on statement option.
A clothing account(Markams 6 month interest free), you buy R100 and pay in 5 months. the 6th month your score jumps up. Since you paid more then installment and on time.

I know the system is stupid but that how it is. You need debt to get more debt :P.

This is by far the most in detail post regarding home approval processes that I have come across.

Thank you for this.
 
Out of interest, does it negatively impact your credit score if you regularly pay off things early? Eg 60 months car installments paid off in 24 months?

I've had some discussions with friends & colleagues about it, without a clear answer. If the systems pick up that you effectively dodge paying interest(paying closer to cash price), won't that make you less desirable to creditors?
 
Out of interest, does it negatively impact your credit score if you regularly pay off things early? Eg 60 months car installments paid off in 24 months?

I've had some discussions with friends & colleagues about it, without a clear answer. If the systems pick up that you effectively dodge paying interest(paying closer to cash price), won't that make you less desirable to creditors?

No, if you pay off early, the last 12 or 24 months active history will count towards behavior(Positive). Past the 12 or 24 months if no activity is detected it will not impact(Positive or Negatively) on your score.

If applying for credit and if you pay off your car installment like 3 months before you apply for a house or another credit facility your affordability will be better plus you will have a good behavior.

It take 1 - 2 months before a creditor updates the status to 'PAID IN FULL', always ask for a paid up letter, check credit report to see if they updated it to paid(close with R 0 balance) before applying for new credit. I had one case where a client applied for home loan and was decline due to affordability since the final home loan installment of the previous home loan was not updated by creditor(The loan dated back 19 months).
 
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Transunion (http://mytu.co.za)
Your score should be 850+ to qualify. The higher score + lower expense = Better interest rate.
Some banks accept 750 but you will get a crappy interest rate(p+4%) and will require a huge deposit.

Experian - https://www.creditexpert.co.za/ a score of 1 or 2 to qualify.

Sadly I don't know the Compuscan and XDS. The last I work with Compuscan was above average rating and forgot how XDS was implemented.

Banks usually do checks on 2 Bureaus for home loans.

The score is a guideline and will not guarantee approval.
Real calculations - Most common NOT COMPLETE LIST.
The below is for affordability.
Your expense/income ratio should be low(less 0.5) and 30% of Gross Income should be the max installment. If you paying rent and it recorded in rental Bureaus, some home loan companies require to tick a checkbox to say it's primary or something to that effect, by default bank ignores rental bureaus for home loans or ignores the first entry. The system I work before we ignored the first entry but trigger a warning for call manager to confirm if the rental amount was primary or secondary.

:)

The Below is for risk.
The following will increase your risk.
Having 2 or more credit cards.(1 for each)
Having a credit card with 90%+ balance.(Seriously, if you have 5000 limit and use 4800 you more risky then a person with 50000 credit card but with limit 56000).(1)
Personal loan(1 for each)
Revolving Loan(1 for each)
Temp Loan(1 for each)
Store accounts with 80%+ balance(1 for each)
Having used 100%+ of any credit facility(1 point additional per account)
if risk is 5 or greater your chances of getting approve is slim.


The below is behavior. You need 5+ to qualify
Paying account up to date for 3 month(1 point each account)
Paying account up to date for 6 months(2 points each account)
Paying account up to date for 12 months(3 points each account)
Paying a contract/loans 3 or more months up to date(1 point)
Paying a contract/loans 6 or more months up to date(2 points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 90%(2 Points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 80%(3 Points)
(The credit card only need to reflect the balance of the last month to achieve the points, so 0%, 100%,100%, 90%, 70%, 60%(last statement before you apply) )
Having a Default or Judgement automatically disqualifies you.
Having non payment has huge negative impact and takes 2 years to not impact score(I think they made it one year with new NCA)

The below does not effect your credit score/risk/behavior but only calculated against your affordability.
Short term insurance.
Some contracts(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
Telephone account(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
DSTV(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)


So Affordability + Behavior + Risk + No Default/Judgement = Pre-Approved.

Other factors, home valuation, area and lastly your work position. Basically Fraud prevention.

So to answer your question yes. You need 2 active accounts. No account = No Behavior = Low Score = .......
Credit card(55 days interest free + earn rewards) is good since it gives you good points after 6 months, having just one credit card is perfect. Set up 100% payment on statement option.
A clothing account(Markams 6 month interest free), you buy R100 and pay in 5 months. the 6th month your score jumps up. Since you paid more then installment and on time.

I know the system is stupid but that how it is. You need debt to get more debt :P.

Wow, thank you! This is great information. :)
 
Transunion (http://mytu.co.za)
Your score should be 850+ to qualify. The higher score + lower expense = Better interest rate.
Some banks accept 750 but you will get a crappy interest rate(p+4%) and will require a huge deposit.

Experian - https://www.creditexpert.co.za/ a score of 1 or 2 to qualify.

Sadly I don't know the Compuscan and XDS. The last I work with Compuscan was above average rating and forgot how XDS was implemented.

Banks usually do checks on 2 Bureaus for home loans.

The score is a guideline and will not guarantee approval.
Real calculations - Most common NOT COMPLETE LIST.
The below is for affordability.
Your expense/income ratio should be low(less 0.5) and 30% of Gross Income should be the max installment. If you paying rent and it recorded in rental Bureaus, some home loan companies require to tick a checkbox to say it's primary or something to that effect, by default bank ignores rental bureaus for home loans or ignores the first entry. The system I work before we ignored the first entry but trigger a warning for call manager to confirm if the rental amount was primary or secondary.

:)

The Below is for risk.
The following will increase your risk.
Having 2 or more credit cards.(1 for each)
Having a credit card with 90%+ balance.(Seriously, if you have 5000 limit and use 4800 you more risky then a person with 50000 credit card but with limit 56000).(1)
Personal loan(1 for each)
Revolving Loan(1 for each)
Temp Loan(1 for each)
Store accounts with 80%+ balance(1 for each)
Having used 100%+ of any credit facility(1 point additional per account)
if risk is 5 or greater your chances of getting approve is slim.


The below is behavior. You need 5+ to qualify
Paying account up to date for 3 month(1 point each account)
Paying account up to date for 6 months(2 points each account)
Paying account up to date for 12 months(3 points each account)
Paying a contract/loans 3 or more months up to date(1 point)
Paying a contract/loans 6 or more months up to date(2 points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 90%(2 Points)
Paying a credit card for more then 6 months+ and maintaining a balance below 80%(3 Points)
(The credit card only need to reflect the balance of the last month to achieve the points, so 0%, 100%,100%, 90%, 70%, 60%(last statement before you apply) )
Having a Default or Judgement automatically disqualifies you.
Having non payment has huge negative impact and takes 2 years to not impact score(I think they made it one year with new NCA)

The below does not effect your credit score/risk/behavior but only calculated against your affordability.
Short term insurance.
Some contracts(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
Telephone account(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)
DSTV(Refered to Open Account WITHOUT CREDIT LIMIT)


So Affordability + Behavior + Risk + No Default/Judgement = Pre-Approved.

Other factors, home valuation, area and lastly your work position. Basically Fraud prevention.

So to answer your question yes. You need 2 active accounts. No account = No Behavior = Low Score = .......
Credit card(55 days interest free + earn rewards) is good since it gives you good points after 6 months, having just one credit card is perfect. Set up 100% payment on statement option.
A clothing account(Markams 6 month interest free), you buy R100 and pay in 5 months. the 6th month your score jumps up. Since you paid more then installment and on time.

I know the system is stupid but that how it is. You need debt to get more debt :P.

Thankx for this insightful infor, do car finance fallow the same , as i was told to waite for 12 months since my payment profile was not gud.
 
Thankx for this insightful infor, do car finance fallow the same , as i was told to waite for 12 months since my payment profile was not gud.

9 months should be enough(since creditor might only update the credit bureau after 3 months). If you applying for a car, it be safer to request a credit report before you apply for a car.
 
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