advice on unlowering a car;

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Hi master MYBB mechanics...

got a few questions for you all on major suspension work;

I got my car from auction; lowered, but very badly and unprofessionally done;
IE the guy previous to me, cut parts of the springs off; and generally messed up the ride of my little picanto;
the springs were in a very bad way when they got pulled out; was grinding on the arches; were all bent out of shape;
( seriously was is the point of this modification? :confused:)

anyway, that's all in the past now as I just went and refitted my coil springs on my car.
I recently test drove a equivalent picanto of my GF and the difference is like an donkey cart vs a Mercedes s class.....

I found a scrapyard, and brought all 4 springs for my car; front 2 came with the shock encased inside;
and the back 2 were just springs on their own;

Ive got a few questions firstly;

should I have wheel alignment done now?
I mean my car drives more or less straight;
but the steering feels a bit strange; but maybe that's me not being used to it;:p
is there anything I should ask for when I do alignment?

and secondly; should I have at least the front 2 shocks changed?
I brought it as it came and Im a bit unsure what brand my front shocks are?
its not even marked; and I have no way of telling if the shocks were in good condition when I got them;
is there any concrete test to be sure?

and thirdly; is there anything I should look out for in the next 1000 KM? or anything I should look out for now?

IE tire wear different, CV joint wear different? shocks wear different?
also anything I should avoid, or try to do to keep it in better condition that what I got it as?

apart from avoiding JHB's potholes:p at least until I drive a land cruiser bakkie......
 

Sinbad

Honorary Master
Joined
Jun 5, 2006
Messages
81,189
Get alignment and shocks checked by a reputable shop ASAP.
 

Sinbad

Honorary Master
Joined
Jun 5, 2006
Messages
81,189
Dangerous to drive this way?
Could well be.
Your suspension is what keeps your tyre in contact with the road and keeps you in control. If anything feels even slightly vague, get it checked out for peace of mind.
After changing McPherson struts alignment is necessary in many cases.
You can do an amateur shock check by bouncing each corner of the car up and down a few times. It should not continue bouncing when you stop, just return to rest position and stop.
 
Last edited:

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Could well be.
Your suspension is what keeps your tyre in contact with the road and keeps you in control. If anything feels even slightly vague, get it checked out for peace of mind.
After changing McPherson struts alignment is necessary in many cases.
You can do an amateur shock check by bouncing each corner of the car up and down a few times. It should not continue bouncing when you stop, just return to rest position and stop.

Cool will do, only front alighnment is nessasary right?

Also any reccomendations, or specific makes of alignment machine i need?
 

Sinbad

Honorary Master
Joined
Jun 5, 2006
Messages
81,189
Cool will do, only front alighnment is nessasary right?

Also any reccomendations, or specific makes of alignment machine i need?
Just take it to a hi q or Supa quick and ask them to do it.
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Just take it to a hi q or Supa quick and ask them to do it.

Will do thanks, anything i should check after a certin km point? Anything i should avoid doing,

Not sure if suspension has a bed in period......

Shows how much i know about cars:p
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Another question, as my suspension is now back to stock,

Should i do a inspection for insurance again?

I mean slowly but surely my car is being returned back to stock form,

First the exhuast gone, now the suspension,
One or 2 cosmetic parts on, i should have a picanto that looks and feels like any other on the road.....
 

Neo_X

Expert Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
1,798
Another question, as my suspension is now back to stock,

Should i do a inspection for insurance again?

I mean slowly but surely my car is being returned back to stock form,

First the exhuast gone, now the suspension,
One or 2 cosmetic parts on, i should have a picanto that looks and feels like any other on the road.....

i would assume that if you insured it as a modified version, then yes - you could try that. Although i am not sure how the normal insurer will handle a unmodified modified car :p
 

sybertiger

Expert Member
Joined
Apr 25, 2012
Messages
2,380
or get some new coil overs :)

springs+shocks,they are alot better than the stockones
and ya check the cv's + realignment+balancing,just incase
also let them check if they have played with camber,if u just replace the springs

lowerd cars is nice,till you get stuck on a speedbump :p
 

SlinkyMike

Executive Member
Joined
Jan 23, 2006
Messages
9,596
I know this isn't helpful but I totally lost it a "picanto" HTF anyone could imagine that this car could have a racing aesthetic or be made to look meaner is just beyond me.

Rolling by time you indicated that the exhaust had been modded too.
 

Colin62

Executive Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2008
Messages
8,270
Now that your car has been raised, are you going to name it Lazarus?
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Now that your car has been raised, are you going to name it Lazarus?

Maybe, don't know yet,

Thinking to call it Frankenstein with all the crap i had got it with.

Yeah, crap exhuast, hole in the bumper,
Lowered suspension, done really badly
carbon fibre stickers stuck everywhere, a few choice gifts hidden in the centre console and in the rear suspension bushing

Overall, most of the crap is gone, next is probably bumper respray or new as its a bit broken the tab,

Otherwise, i did the alighnment, but still car shakes under accelleration,
What could this be? Gonna change cv boots soon,

What could be bent? Axle or somethiñg else?
Flywheel?
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
I know this isn't helpful but I totally lost it a "picanto" HTF anyone could imagine that this car could have a racing aesthetic or be made to look meaner is just beyond me.

Rolling by time you indicated that the exhaust had been modded too.

Yeah, i hear you,

You need to be a real id10t to belive a picanto is a sports car, its just too small and underpowered to be good at anything even slightly sporty....
 
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
10,395
I shall quote the Top Gear guys on this, "If a car has been modded, walk away. ESPECIALLY if it's been lowered."

But that's water under the bridge now as it's too late... My advice, stop just changing parts you think need changing. Take it to a proper mechanic and get him to do a full check of the vehicle
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
I shall quote the Top Gear guys on this, "If a car has been modded, walk away. ESPECIALLY if it's been lowered."

But that's water under the bridge now as it's too late... My advice, stop just changing parts you think need changing. Take it to a proper mechanic and get him to do a full check of the vehicle

Yeah strongly agree with you on this,

Unfortunantly i wasn't around when this car went for auction, i would have spotted the lowering, and exhuast and carbon fibre stickers

Too late now, but slowly but surely fixing it up

Right now you wont recodnise it from when i got it.....

Next service quite soon, not sure if i should change valves or cambelt this service, as its over 100000 km
 

Sinbad

Honorary Master
Joined
Jun 5, 2006
Messages
81,189
Shaking under acceleration is most likely inner cv joints.
 

Drifter

Honorary Master
Joined
Dec 19, 2012
Messages
22,825
Maybe, don't know yet,

Thinking to call it Frankenstein with all the crap i had got it with.

Yeah, crap exhuast, hole in the bumper,
Lowered suspension, done really badly
carbon fibre stickers stuck everywhere, a few choice gifts hidden in the centre console and in the rear suspension bushing

Overall, most of the crap is gone, next is probably bumper respray or new as its a bit broken the tab,

Otherwise, i did the alighnment, but still car shakes under accelleration,
What could this be? Gonna change cv boots soon,

What could be bent? Axle or somethiñg else?
Flywheel?

Shaking under acceleration will have nothing to do with CV Boots. Could mean that it just needs a damn good major service, plugs + filters etc.
 

Jet-Fighter7700

Honorary Master
Joined
Mar 12, 2008
Messages
31,697
Shaking under acceleration will have nothing to do with CV Boots. Could mean that it just needs a damn good major service, plugs + filters etc.

That's what i also think, due for me quite soon

But i keep thinking its due to a bent wheel or axle? Can that be?
 
Top