Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt3)

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wingnut771 said:
Can you try staying logged into your cap account for a while (in the router), like an hour, then log back into the uncapped account and repeat the test?

EDIT: Make a note of your uncapped IP and make sure it's different after the hour.
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Will do, but can only later today.
 
RoMark said:
Home uncapped 4Mbps Eastern Cape

International Speedtest
Downloaded 20.0 megabytes in 3:11 seconds. (106.86 KB/s)

Local Speedtest
Downloaded 15.6 megabytes in 40 seconds. (397.39 KB/s)

AH capped account:

International Speedtest
Downloaded 20.0 megabytes in 49 seconds. (413.75 KB/s)

Local Speedtest
Downloaded 15.6 megabytes in 39 seconds. (409.28 KB/s)
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Some pretty respectable speeds there on the uncapped :) It seems that NZB might be the slowdown as the international download test looks about right :) 12.5% * 4Mbps = ~50Kbps (You get 100KBps)
 
Zertop said:
Some pretty respectable speeds there on the uncapped :) It seems that NZB might be the slowdown as the international download test looks about right :) 12.5% * 4Mbps = ~50Kbps (You get 100KBps)
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Explain again pls?
How you get to the conclusion that NZb is the problem, as that same NZb achieved 424kB/s on a capped account?

I don't understand the references to 12.5%.?
 
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RoMark said:
Explain again pls?
How you get to the conclusion that NZb is the problem, as that same NZb achieved 424kB/s on a capped account?

I don't understand the references to 12.5%.?
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Sorry - thats not what I was implying :P I was just saying that it appears that Nzb/P2P (Not the servers, but the shaping of it) is where the slowness is coming from, as HTTP downloads are running fine :) If your P2P is shaped at 6.25%, HTTP would be shaped at 12.5%
 
Zertop said:
Sorry - thats not what I was implying :P I was just saying that it appears that Nzb/P2P (Not the servers, but the shaping of it) is where the slowness is coming from, as HTTP downloads are running fine :) If your P2P is shaped at 6.25%, HTTP would be shaped at 12.5%
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Ah okay, now I understand.
Yes, afaic determine Nttp are classified as P2P on the AH network.
I haven't tested Http(yet).

I worked on P2P and at 6.25% shaping, but I was receiving speeds of about 3%
That is why I'm saying that I'm either throttled or shaping is much more severe on P2P than the indicated figures in the clientzone.

Also, I do not agree with this info:

If your P2P is shaped at 6.25%, HTTP would be shaped at 12.5%
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My http shaping is at 18.8% and my P2P is at 6.5%
 
RoMark said:
Ah okay, now I understand.
Yes, afaic determine Nttp are classified as P2P on the AH network.
I haven't tested Http(yet).

I worked on P2P and at 6.25% shaping, but I was receiving speeds of about 3%
That is why I'm saying that I'm either throttled or shaping is much more severe on P2P than the indicated figures in the clientzone.

Also, I do not agree with this info:

My http shaping is at 18.8% and my P2P is at 6.5%
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Oh! Usually my HTTP goes down to 12.5 when on 6.25p2p - then just use 18% for your calculations :)

The tests in the tool are http downloads, so they seem to be reflecting 18.5% correctly - so there must be either more severe shaping/some form of issue with P2P shaping :(

I'll let afriguy answer farther, cause he is more experienced with their own network haha.
 
Zertop said:
Oh! Usually my HTTP goes down to 12.5 when on 6.25p2p - then just use 18% for your calculations :)

The tests in the tool are http downloads, so they seem to be reflecting 18.5% correctly - so there must be either more severe shaping/some form of issue with P2P shaping :(

I'll let afriguy answer farther, cause he is more experienced with their own network haha.
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Thx for pointing me to your tool.
Will definitely use it a bit more in the future.

It was a big eye opener for me to compare capped vs uncapped ito downloading a 20 meg file.
49 seconds on the capped vs 3:11 (18.8% shaping applied) on home uncapped.
That is a bad ratio any day.
 
Zertop said:
Oh! Usually my HTTP goes down to 12.5 when on 6.25p2p - then just use 18% for your calculations :)

The tests in the tool are http downloads, so they seem to be reflecting 18.5% correctly - so there must be either more severe shaping/some form of issue with P2P shaping :(

I'll let afriguy answer farther, cause he is more experienced with their own network haha.
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Why then is international affected and local is not. HTTP is HTTP, no matter where it comes from, it still puts a load on the IPC.

Besides, I thought speedtests were not affected by shaping?
 
wingnut771 said:
Why then is international affected and local is not. HTTP is HTTP, no matter where it comes from, it still puts a load on the IPC.

Besides, I thought speedtests were not affected by shaping?
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That I do not know :/ I think it is due to the fact that it is hosted at the IPC's (Telkom). Those arnt speedtests, they are just downloads which I calculate the time taken and turn it into KBps :)
 
wingnut771 said:
Can you try staying logged into your cap account for a while (in the router), like an hour, then log back into the uncapped account and repeat the test?

EDIT: Make a note of your uncapped IP and make sure it's different after the hour.
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Okay logged into my capped account(via router) with test results:

Local Tracert

Tracing route to news24.co.za [41.86.110.143]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 105-236-8-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.8.129]
3 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms 41.181.51.182
4 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.198.188]
5 26 ms 26 ms 28 ms unc-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.8]
6 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms 196.44.31.106
7 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms nl-ha-2.za--rb-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.121]
8 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms 196-28-178-141.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.141]
9 21 ms 23 ms 23 ms 197-84-7-2.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.7.2]
10 27 ms 27 ms 30 ms 197-84-5-254.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.5.254]
11 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms vp-02-14.bb.ctn.c27.za.net [196.28.178.70]
12 21 ms 22 ms 21 ms gig5-2-cpt-opt-65-1.optinet.net [196.41.133.166]
13 21 ms 23 ms 20 ms OPTI-CPT-N1-Hosting.optinet.net [197.84.196.6]
14 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 197-84-208-146.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.208.146]
15 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 41-86-110-143.mweb.co.za [41.86.110.143]

Trace complete.

International Tracert

Tracing route to thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 11 ms 8 ms 9 ms 105-236-8-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.8.129]
3 27 ms 25 ms 26 ms 41.181.201.94
4 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.184.28]
5 31 ms 30 ms * compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 163 ms 163 ms 170 ms ls-cr-2--tb-cr-1.uk-b.mtnns.net [196.44.31.113]
7 171 ms 170 ms 178 ms ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.201]
8 164 ms 163 ms 162 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240]
9 209 ms 171 ms 179 ms gi1-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
10 170 ms 169 ms 170 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

International Speedtest
Downloaded 20.0 megabytes in 51 seconds. (398.44 KB/s)

Local Speedtest
Downloaded 15.6 megabytes in 45 seconds. (352.27 KB/s)




Test End Timestamp
2014/03/08 16:31:08.37
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Uncapped Home results after logging out of capped account(IP address changed):

Local Tracert

Tracing route to news24.co.za [41.86.110.143]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 105-236-8-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.8.129]
3 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms 41.181.51.182
4 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-c.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.198.188]
5 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms ct-cr-2.za--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.134]
7 27 ms 26 ms 27 ms 196.44.0.74
8 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms 196-28-178-141.adsl.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.141]
9 30 ms 31 ms 32 ms 197-84-7-2.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.7.2]
10 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms 197-84-5-254.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.5.254]
11 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms vp-02-14.bb.ctn.c27.za.net [196.28.178.70]
12 27 ms 27 ms 30 ms gig5-2-cpt-opt-65-1.optinet.net [196.41.133.166]
13 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms OPTI-CPT-N1-Hosting.optinet.net [197.84.196.6]
14 35 ms 35 ms 34 ms 197-84-208-146.cpt.mweb.co.za [197.84.208.146]
15 28 ms 27 ms 27 ms 41-86-110-143.mweb.co.za [41.86.110.143]

Trace complete.

International Tracert

Tracing route to thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 105-236-8-129-esr-lo.mtnbusiness.co.za [105.236.8.129]
3 93 ms 243 ms 112 ms ipc-send-tb-3a.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.53.214]
4 98 ms 39 ms 33 ms tb-dca-2.za--qux-a.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.184.28]
5 34 ms 33 ms 34 ms compj-cpt-1.mtnns.net [196.44.18.2]
6 170 ms 170 ms 170 ms ls-cr-2.uk--tb-cr-1.za.mtnns.net [196.44.31.113]
7 176 ms 177 ms 177 ms ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtn.net [209.212.111.201]
8 177 ms 177 ms 177 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240]
9 194 ms 179 ms 181 ms gi1-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.9]
10 170 ms 170 ms 170 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

International Speedtest
Downloaded 20.0 megabytes in 3:10 seconds. (107.34 KB/s)

Local Speedtest
Downloaded 15.6 megabytes in 43 seconds. (364.66 KB/s)




Test End Timestamp
2014/03/08 16:54:28.95
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... and again I'm getting between 10 - 13kB/s on 6.5% p2p Shaping, instead of 26.5kB/s
So unless SABNZBD are reporting incorrect speeds, I'm not getting speeds shapped to 6.25% from AH, but more shaped to 3%.

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RoMark said:
Okay logged into my capped account(via router) with test results:



Uncapped Home results after logging out of capped account(IP address changed):



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... and again I'm getting between 10 - 13kB/s on 6.5% p2p Shaping, instead of 26.5kB/s
So unless SABNZBD are reporting incorrect speeds, I'm not getting speeds shapped to 6.25% from AH, but more shaped to 3%.

View attachment 104160
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Those international tracerts look a bit wonky, capped aswell.

They need that upgrade NOW, but how soon is soon, they've been saying "soon" since Jan.

A sign to cancel for now and move on until they get upgraded?
 
RoMark said:
Okay logged into my capped account(via router) with test results:



Uncapped Home results after logging out of capped account(IP address changed):



View attachment 104158

... and again I'm getting between 10 - 13kB/s on 6.5% p2p Shaping, instead of 26.5kB/s
So unless SABNZBD are reporting incorrect speeds, I'm not getting speeds shapped to 6.25% from AH, but more shaped to 3%.

View attachment 104160
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Would it be possible to try a torrent. A legal one of course ;) :D

No but seriously - what do your speeds look like with this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent

I always seem to get my full speed when downloading that (Or shaped %age speed)
 
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Just wondering - are people still having that twitch issue? 'cause for some reason, I have been able to watch (while shaped) on high quality for the past half hour without any buffering?

Z
 
Shaped to death on a Saturday night. If that extra bandwidth hasn't arrived by the end of the month I'm going to have to change my package or provider :(
 
Well this can't be good...

Local Tracert

Tracing route to news24.co.za [41.86.110.143]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms MyDslModem.local.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 41-86-110-143.mweb.co.za [41.86.110.143]

Trace complete.

International Tracert

Tracing route to thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms MyDslModem.local.lan [192.168.1.254]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 152 ms 155 ms 151 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

International Speedtest
Downloaded 20.0 megabytes in 6:38 seconds. (51.42 KB/s)

Local Speedtest
Downloaded 15.6 megabytes in 1:25 seconds. (186.19 KB/s)




Test End Timestamp
Sat 03/08/2014 20:58:43.49
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RoMark said:
Okay logged into my capped account(via router) with test results:



Uncapped Home results after logging out of capped account(IP address changed):



View attachment 104158

... and again I'm getting between 10 - 13kB/s on 6.5% p2p Shaping, instead of 26.5kB/s
So unless SABNZBD are reporting incorrect speeds, I'm not getting speeds shapped to 6.25% from AH, but more shaped to 3%.

View attachment 104160
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Definitely the ****ty shaper.

I would move on for now, there are better options.
 
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