Afrihost Uncapped ADSL Feedback (Pt3)

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This bloody garbage again.

Afrihost:
Code:
Tracing route to google.co.za [66.8.14.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   263 ms   263 ms   261 ms  41.181.221.217
  4   264 ms   249 ms   250 ms  41.181.221.218
  5   273 ms   272 ms   275 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6   295 ms   306 ms   308 ms  rb-cr-2.za--rb-dca-2.za-b.mtnns.net [196.44.0.155]
  7   316 ms   315 ms   342 ms  jh-cr-1.za--rb-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.42]
  8   284 ms   282 ms   285 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
  9   284 ms   284 ms   280 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]

Trace complete.

WebAfrica:
Code:
Tracing route to cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    46 ms    47 ms    46 ms  196.38.74.246
  4    35 ms    39 ms    55 ms  cdsl1-umh-gi0-0-0-3102.ip.isnet.net [196.38.74.245]
  5    38 ms    38 ms    40 ms  cdsl1-umh-bd150.ip.isnet.net [196.26.210.192]
  6     9 ms     8 ms     8 ms  mi-za-umh-p8-ten-0-0-1-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.93.204]
  7    52 ms    54 ms    53 ms  168.209.0.178
  8    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1a-bry-gi1-0-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.218.1]
  9    31 ms    29 ms    29 ms  core1a-pkl-te-0-0-0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.100.77]
 10    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  168.209.1.179
 11    25 ms    27 ms    26 ms  41-208-29-126.mtnns.net [41.208.29.126]
 12    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  jh-cr-1.za-jh-pr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.73]
 13    26 ms    26 ms    25 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
 14    28 ms    30 ms    29 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]

Trace complete.
 
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This bloody garbage again.

Afrihost:
Code:
Tracing route to google.co.za [66.8.14.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   263 ms   263 ms   261 ms  41.181.221.217
  4   264 ms   249 ms   250 ms  41.181.221.218
  5   273 ms   272 ms   275 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6   295 ms   306 ms   308 ms  rb-cr-2.za--rb-dca-2.za-b.mtnns.net [196.44.0.155]
  7   316 ms   315 ms   342 ms  jh-cr-1.za--rb-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.42]
  8   284 ms   282 ms   285 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
  9   284 ms   284 ms   280 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]

Trace complete.

WebAfrica:
Code:
Tracing route to cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    46 ms    47 ms    46 ms  196.38.74.246
  4    35 ms    39 ms    55 ms  cdsl1-umh-gi0-0-0-3102.ip.isnet.net [196.38.74.245]
  5    38 ms    38 ms    40 ms  cdsl1-umh-bd150.ip.isnet.net [196.26.210.192]
  6     9 ms     8 ms     8 ms  mi-za-umh-p8-ten-0-0-1-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.93.204]
  7    52 ms    54 ms    53 ms  168.209.0.178
  8    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1a-bry-gi1-0-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.218.1]
  9    31 ms    29 ms    29 ms  core1a-pkl-te-0-0-0-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.100.77]
 10    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  168.209.1.179
 11    25 ms    27 ms    26 ms  41-208-29-126.mtnns.net [41.208.29.126]
 12    27 ms    26 ms    26 ms  jh-cr-1.za-jh-pr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.73]
 13    26 ms    26 ms    25 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
 14    28 ms    30 ms    29 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.46]

Trace complete.

Sorry about this :(
What area are you in? We're seeing a pick up in demand which looks to be causing some inconsistent latency.
 
Things are pretty busy on the East IPC at the moment, we're managing the demand as best we can.
I'm sure the experience will start to normalise soon.

And I assume you are working so that it doesn't happen again?

You don't give us full speed all the time so the one thing customers on Standard Uncapped expect is stable ping and no packet loss.
 
And I assume you are working so that it doesn't happen again?

You don't give us full speed all the time so the one thing customers on Standard Uncapped expect is stable ping and no packet loss.

We are indeed, we're pushing through some massive improvements and tweaks.
 
Games on MTN network still unplayable. Ping seems fine intially, then jumps around so much you can't do squat. Timeout follows and the kick!
 
Games on MTN network still unplayable. Ping seems fine intially, then jumps around so much you can't do squat. Timeout follows and the kick!

Which games are you having trouble with at the moment?
 
I'm assuming Youtube (even loading the Afrihost site) running at exactly half my line speed, is down to the service warning shown on the Afrihost site?
 
I'm assuming Youtube (even loading the Afrihost site) running at exactly half my line speed, is down to the service warning shown on the Afrihost site?

It may be, we'll need to run some tests to determine that though. I'm able to stream OK at the moment.
What do you results look like?
 
It may be, we'll need to run some tests to determine that though. I'm able to stream OK at the moment.
What do you results look like?
Started doing some testing by changing accounts and what not. Started with AfriUncapped. Other accounts got full speed in Chrome and IE.

Then decided to check AfriUncapped again.

Full speed. What can cause an issue like this? Router got muddled for a bit? Weird authorising with the AfriShaper?
 
Started doing some testing by changing accounts and what not. Started with AfriUncapped. Other accounts got full speed in Chrome and IE.

Then decided to check AfriUncapped again.

Full speed. What can cause an issue like this? Router got muddled for a bit? Weird authorising with the AfriShaper?

It could be a number of things, I'll need to check latency on your account as well as throughput itself to YouTube.
 
A traceroute to youtube.com and mybroadband.co.za should give me a pretty good idea on what's happening.

Youtube:
Code:
Tracing route to youtube.com [66.8.14.49]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   182 ms   186 ms   187 ms  41.181.221.217
  4   178 ms   182 ms   176 ms  41.181.221.218
  5   159 ms   163 ms   176 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6   159 ms   153 ms   156 ms  rb-cr-2.za--rb-dca-2.za-b.mtnns.net [196.44.0.155]
  7   157 ms   155 ms   159 ms  jh-cr-1.za--rb-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.42]
  8   172 ms   171 ms   171 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
  9   164 ms   161 ms   160 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.49]

Trace complete.

MyBB:
Code:
Tracing route to mybroadband.co.za [197.242.89.170]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3   194 ms   197 ms   211 ms  41.181.221.217
  4   228 ms   175 ms   173 ms  41.181.221.218
  5   209 ms   156 ms   150 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6   159 ms   158 ms   163 ms  rb-dca-2.za--rb-cr-1.mtnns.net [196.44.31.122]
  7   161 ms   155 ms   158 ms  jh-cr-2.za--rb-cr-1.za-b.mtnns.net [196.44.31.171]
  8   183 ms   189 ms   194 ms  jh-pr-1.za--jh-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.222]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   204 ms   203 ms   201 ms  CORE.GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.TO.GP-HV-ICT-MEE-1.DFA.P2P.10G.za.africainx.net [41.84.13.66]
 11   186 ms   186 ms   190 ms  41-66-132-246-f6.HET001-CPE-1-to-GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.africainx.net [41.66.132.246]
 12   185 ms   185 ms   182 ms  core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193.1]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14   182 ms   184 ms   185 ms  197.242.89.170


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On WebAfrica:
Youtube:
Code:
Tracing route to cache.google.com [66.8.14.49]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  196.38.74.246
  4    15 ms    15 ms    17 ms  cdsl1-umh-gi0-0-0-3102.ip.isnet.net [196.38.74.245]
  5    17 ms    18 ms    17 ms  196.26.210.200
  6    13 ms    14 ms    10 ms  mi-za-umh-p7-ten-0-0-1-1.ip.isnet.net [168.209.93.239]
  7    22 ms    23 ms    25 ms  mi-za-bry-p7-lo0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.255.208]
  8    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  core2a-bry-gi1-0-0.ip.isnet.net [168.209.218.2]
  9    22 ms    21 ms    21 ms  168.209.100.205
 10    26 ms    25 ms    26 ms  168.209.1.179
 11    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  41-208-29-126.mtnns.net [41.208.29.126]
 12    31 ms    23 ms    24 ms  jh-cr-1.za-jh-pr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.73]
 13    31 ms    31 ms    28 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [41.181.180.11]
 14    27 ms    26 ms    24 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.49]

Trace complete.


Seems we have a ping issue again. After changing to WebAfrica and back to Afrihost. Full speed again.
 
Did the latency also normalise when you switched back to our account?

Unfortunately I did not check, but Youtube is still running at full speed. Here.

Youtube:
Code:
Tracing route to youtube.com [66.8.14.48]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    97 ms   100 ms   116 ms  41.181.221.217
  4    92 ms    91 ms    90 ms  41.181.221.218
  5    88 ms    89 ms    92 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6    97 ms   102 ms   104 ms  rb-cr-1.za--rb-dca-2.mtnns.net [196.44.31.122]
  7    88 ms    97 ms    98 ms  jh-cr-2.za--rb-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.31.95]
  8    89 ms    85 ms    81 ms  jh-dca-2.za--jh-cr-2.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.225]
  9   102 ms    99 ms    99 ms  cache.google.com [66.8.14.48]

Trace complete.

MyBB:
Code:
Tracing route to mybroadband.co.za [197.242.89.170]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3    36 ms    38 ms    39 ms  41.181.221.217
  4    52 ms    52 ms    54 ms  41.181.221.218
  5    66 ms    63 ms    64 ms  rb-dca-2.za--qux-b.za.mtnbusiness.net [41.181.165.118]
  6    41 ms    39 ms    41 ms  xp-dca-1.za--xp-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net [196.44.0.155]
  7    73 ms    71 ms    68 ms  jh-cr-1.za--rb-cr-2.za.mtnns.net [196.44.0.42]
  8    83 ms    63 ms    54 ms  196.44.0.72
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   117 ms   102 ms   119 ms  CORE.GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.TO.GP-HV-ICT-MEE-1.DFA.P2P.10G.za.africainx.net [41.84.13.66]
 11    91 ms    88 ms    89 ms  41-66-132-246-f6.HET001-CPE-1-to-GP-CN-HET-MEE-1.africainx.net [41.66.132.246]
 12    92 ms    92 ms    89 ms  core-access-switch1.jnb1.host-h.net [197.189.193.1]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14    81 ms    78 ms    79 ms  197.242.89.170

Trace complete.

Pings have dropped but they still seem very high for local, don't they?
 
Unfortunately I did not check, but Youtube is still running at full speed. Here.
Pings have dropped but they still seem very high for local, don't they?

That is looking better than your previous set of results, still not quite on par - but better.
 
That is looking better than your previous set of results, still not quite on par - but better.

So what does this mean for line speed? Bad pings, low line usage. Better pings, full line usage. I'm assuming it's the performance issues you guys have reported then.
 
So what does this mean for line speed? Bad pings, low line usage. Better pings, full line usage. I'm assuming it's the performance issues you guys have reported then.

It does sound like it, although it's a bit odd that changing around accounts seems to normalise things.
What area are you in?
 
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