Afrihost

Just want to say I love you
Yesyes, we all do love 'em to death, those cute lil Afrihosters ... until they fuk it up again and again and all over again. Then we get angry and shout abuse at the Afripersons on the many Afrithreads in this very Afriforum. Regarding your "unaffected" connection: just you wait. I was in the same boat once. Was chillingly flying the net while around me everyone was suffering bad Afriservice. I was like Wut? All is perfect here!

Until the Afribug bit my ass as well. :wtf:
 
Yesyes, we all do love 'em to death, those cute lil Afrihosters ... until they fuk it up again and again and all over again. Then we get angry and shout abuse at the Afripersons on the many Afrithreads in this very Afriforum. Regarding your "unaffected" connection: just you wait. I was in the same boat once. Was chillingly flying the net while around me everyone was suffering bad Afriservice. I was like Wut? All is perfect here!

Until the Afribug bit my ass as well. :wtf:

You do have a point, but till that day comes. I love em :)

He schedules his downloads for when the network has the least load. Not a bad idea.


Thank You!
 
Don't get me wrong, respect for adopting that practice of stuff that's not urgent to schedule for off-peak times, I do this myself, it makes the network better for everyone.
 
My internet is working hehe :P


But yea yesterday wasn't their best moment in history.
 
Anyone else here use more than two or three products from AH? I am curious to see if anyone is having the same experience as us.

I am sad to report that AH hosts close to 60 domains for us, and also provides us with many bandwidth products.

AH have been regularly running individual debit orders for random products instead of putting all products onto one invoice at the end of each month and debiting our account once per month as they promised they would do.

The extra debit orders they run are generally for small amounts on new products purchased through the month. These include but are not limited to amounts such as R1.50 for pro-rata new domain registrations, R 5.00 for a 1G top up or R 97 for yearly domain renewals. The debit order charges from the bank are in most instances, larger than the AH debit order value.

I have complained numerous times to AH asking them to invoice us one single amount and run one debit order each month. Their responses to my requests are mostly canned and always weak.

About two months ago they promised to sort it out for me. They acknowledged that their processes needed improvement for larger accounts. However, when they tried to sort it out, instead of billing me once per month for all the products we use, our account was debited for 12 times the "normal" amount because AH charged us upfront for a year in advance instead of the monthly fees we have been paying them for over 10 years. I had to fight tooth and nail to be refunded. They eventually obliged and returned our money. They then assured us that their systems were now up to date on our account

Low and behold, just to rub salt in this wound and also to prove how incompetent they can be, they proceeded to run three small debit amounts from our account immediately after the refund was provided, for two bandwidth top-ups and a new domain we registered.

Thanks to AH, our bank charges just for our debit orders run unnecessarily into the hundreds of rands every month.

They seem to lack the competency to manage larger accounts and instead continue to allow their billing automation to proceed not understanding that larger accounts need accounts managers.

We know that one account manager could easily manage 100 accounts, I know this because our own little business is able to do it with ease. Like AH we also run debit orders for our clients and we also have a wide range of products that customers can use each month. Our in-house systems adds the additional products clients use in the month to their account and at the end of each month the client is sent one invoice and one debit order is processed.

Our business also experiences hundreds of transactions each month and we manage this with no problems at all. The principal is so simple to grasp that we could in fact manage millions of transactions in this manner with no ease. It really is a very easy thing to manage. Any new products taken after the debit order run date are simply added to the clients account for the end of the next month’s debit order run. It’s easy.

I feel trapped by AH as moving all our products to a new ISP, which we are emotionally ready to do, will unfortunately require tens of thousands of rands in human resource time not to mention the added frustrations of dealing with angry customers because domains will be down, we will risk potential data problems moving databases, we will have to change the email settings for hundreds of people and also have to deal with all the other general headaches that come with a change in ISP.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how we can solve this problem? Can I take this up in court for the frustration caused? Can we force AH to improve their billing department processes?

@Afrihost, if you read this. You need help. I need you to get that help so I can help myself. I am very happy to quote you for our consultation services to help you fix your billing departments problems, once and for all.

@ Afrihost. I also have very valid complaints related to your hosting incompetency’s, the expensive mix-ups between your mail servers and windows servers, your sever lack of bandwidth speed delivery on multiple lines around SA and a number of support issues such as the over 300 hours we have spent with your call centre this year.
 
Anyone else here use more than two or three products from AH? I am curious to see if anyone is having the same experience as us.

I am sad to report that AH hosts close to 60 domains for us, and also provides us with many bandwidth products.

AH have been regularly running individual debit orders for random products instead of putting all products onto one invoice at the end of each month and debiting our account once per month as they promised they would do.

The extra debit orders they run are generally for small amounts on new products purchased through the month. These include but are not limited to amounts such as R1.50 for pro-rata new domain registrations, R 5.00 for a 1G top up or R 97 for yearly domain renewals. The debit order charges from the bank are in most instances, larger than the AH debit order value.

I have complained numerous times to AH asking them to invoice us one single amount and run one debit order each month. Their responses to my requests are mostly canned and always weak.

About two months ago they promised to sort it out for me. They acknowledged that their processes needed improvement for larger accounts. However, when they tried to sort it out, instead of billing me once per month for all the products we use, our account was debited for 12 times the "normal" amount because AH charged us upfront for a year in advance instead of the monthly fees we have been paying them for over 10 years. I had to fight tooth and nail to be refunded. They eventually obliged and returned our money. They then assured us that their systems were now up to date on our account

Low and behold, just to rub salt in this wound and also to prove how incompetent they can be, they proceeded to run three small debit amounts from our account immediately after the refund was provided, for two bandwidth top-ups and a new domain we registered.

Thanks to AH, our bank charges just for our debit orders run unnecessarily into the hundreds of rands every month.

They seem to lack the competency to manage larger accounts and instead continue to allow their billing automation to proceed not understanding that larger accounts need accounts managers.

We know that one account manager could easily manage 100 accounts, I know this because our own little business is able to do it with ease. Like AH we also run debit orders for our clients and we also have a wide range of products that customers can use each month. Our in-house systems adds the additional products clients use in the month to their account and at the end of each month the client is sent one invoice and one debit order is processed.

Our business also experiences hundreds of transactions each month and we manage this with no problems at all. The principal is so simple to grasp that we could in fact manage millions of transactions in this manner with no ease. It really is a very easy thing to manage. Any new products taken after the debit order run date are simply added to the clients account for the end of the next month’s debit order run. It’s easy.

I feel trapped by AH as moving all our products to a new ISP, which we are emotionally ready to do, will unfortunately require tens of thousands of rands in human resource time not to mention the added frustrations of dealing with angry customers because domains will be down, we will risk potential data problems moving databases, we will have to change the email settings for hundreds of people and also have to deal with all the other general headaches that come with a change in ISP.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how we can solve this problem? Can I take this up in court for the frustration caused? Can we force AH to improve their billing department processes?

@Afrihost, if you read this. You need help. I need you to get that help so I can help myself. I am very happy to quote you for our consultation services to help you fix your billing departments problems, once and for all.

@ Afrihost. I also have very valid complaints related to your hosting incompetency’s, the expensive mix-ups between your mail servers and windows servers, your sever lack of bandwidth speed delivery on multiple lines around SA and a number of support issues such as the over 300 hours we have spent with your call centre this year.

Wow... I am not sure what to say about your experience with regards to Billing, it is definitely not cool for you to have to sit with these types of issues.

Have you been handling these issues via email? If so, could you please send me your ticket ID so that I can follow-up on this and find out why you have been having such a hard time.
 
Wow... I am not sure what to say about your experience with regards to Billing, it is definitely not cool for you to have to sit with these types of issues.

Have you been handling these issues via email? If so, could you please send me your ticket ID so that I can follow-up on this and find out why you have been having such a hard time.

#VLU-806-75064
#SNC-663-64282

http://hellopeter.com/afri-host-com...ited-300-more-than-the-normal-amounts-1548716

IN5582794

These tickets are related to the refund but not to the actual issue at hand of many debit orders run off our account for tiny amounts.

Today's ticket
DBT-280-98704

We want a once invoice with one debit order solution from you.

Its hard to be calm, collected and nice when all the niceness has been drained from you over countless hours trying to solve basic issues.
 
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@PetrolHead, sjoe dude, why have you not seek guidance earlier on the forum? Afrihost does have account managers we are in the same boat as you, although maybe not that many products we have about 4 Dedicated servers and 50 domains, but my point is, you are suppose to have a dedicated accounts manager, I do everything through our accounts guy, well most of the things.

I'm sure Afrigenie will be able to assist you.
 
@Thor187, thank you. I was hoping to keep our issues off the MBB forums but after this mornings debit orders ran off my account, I thought i would turn to the MBB clan for guidance. Thanks again for your post, I trust that Afrigenie will be able to lead us to a positive solution.
 
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@Thor187, thank you. I was hoping to keep our issues off the MBB forums but after this mornings debit orders ran off my account, I thought i would turn to the MBB clan for guidance. Thanks again for you post, I trust that Afrigenie will be able to lead us to a positive solution.

I'm sure he will man, somewhere somehow someone misunderstood something.

Best of luck!
 
#VLU-806-75064
#SNC-663-64282

http://hellopeter.com/afri-host-com...ited-300-more-than-the-normal-amounts-1548716

IN5582794

These tickets are related to the refund but not to the actual issue at hand of many debit orders run off our account for tiny amounts.

Today's ticket
DBT-280-98704

We want a once invoice with one debit order solution from you.

Its hard to be calm, collected and nice when all the niceness has been drained from you over countless hours trying to solve basic issues.

I have escalated your tickets to one of the Account's Managers, they will make sure that all of your future debit orders are sorted and go off as they should.

If you have any issues like this again, please let me know immediately via PM, I will take care of it for you.
 
Hi Afrigenie.

Where are the account managers? I thought you were going to escalate this. Also, please note that no mention was made of any of the other invoices in the mail below.

What happens in the months where we end up using 4 or 5 random top ups on multiple adsl accounts?

Is AH publicly declaring that AH has no power to arrange for specific run dates for larger account holders and that AH has no choice but to submit a debit order of R 5 for each top-up which (in this case at least) incurs an additional bank charge of R16 per debit order created by AH?

Check out the canned and weak response from your billing team received this morning.

Good Day

Trust you are well:)

Please be advised that if you do a top up then the debit order is immediate.
The system will not wait for month end.
Unfortunately we are unable to even stop the debit order from going through.

Hope you will have a lovely day further.

Regards
Dimakatso

Have a great day and please let me know if I can help with anything else!

Warm regards

dimakatso
Afrihost.com
Pure Internet Joy!
 
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