AI & Crypto?

[Jackal65]

Put on your tinfoil hats



Been following the Crypto stuff on YouTube, I found it very interesting that in America Crypto is using about 145,600 MWh per day and about 120 billion liters of water annually. That is a hell of a lot of power and a hell of a lot of water. But now AI clocked in at Electricity is approximately 200,000 GWh (200 TWh) annually for US data centers and Water is approximately 64 billion liters annually for direct cooling. It is estimated that AI cost $30.7 billion annually and Crypto total cost is $6.5 billion annually.

Now they are screwing with all of us because

GPU: Up 50% (e.g., Nvidia RTX 5090 at 50% above MSRP due to AI demand).
CPU: Up 10% (e.g., Intel Raptor Lake chips hiked 10%+ amid AI-driven server needs).
RAM (DRAM/DDR4/DDR5): Up 72% (price indices surged 72% from AI shortages and production shifts).

At the same time, every country is pushing for internet legislation to get people to not use the internet anymore?

It feels like they want to legislate and limit access because the internet is about to become a lot more valuable. More to the point it looks like they want to limit what we can do at home by driving up prices?

 

[Jackal65]

This was a good interview but Dr. Roman Yampolskiy has some ideas that I don't think is viable. The reality about Crypto is, all that needs to happen is people must stop giving it value and it will go away. I don't think Gold, silver and other metals will lose value soon. I will go so far as to say that it will become more valuable over time.

 

[Jackal65]

Why the AI bubble will not pop so easily. Lets look at the players, Nvidia sits at $4 trillion US, Amazon is $2.27 Trillion Microsoft sits at 3.71 Trillion US US, Alphabet sits at $3.14 Trillion US. AMD is at $410 Billion US, Intel is at $182 Billion, OpenAI sits at $300 Billion US.

$13.012 trillion USD is approximately 229.66 trillion ZAR at an exchange rate of 17.65 ZAR/USD.

Who thinks they don't have enough money to back it up?

 

[Jackal65]

I don't like Docker, it feels like they can close the door on me whenever they want.

 

[saor]

Please stop posting all your tech stuff in the philosophy section.

 

[Crumbl0x]

I don't like Docker, it feels like they can close the door on me whenever they want.

Wha...?

Anyways, there's always Podman, LXC, containerd or anything you can meld with squashfs by hand.

 

[Tman*]

Why the AI bubble will not pop so easily. Lets look at the players, Nvidia sits at $4 trillion US, Amazon is $2.27 Trillion Microsoft sits at 3.71 Trillion US US, Alphabet sits at $3.14 Trillion US. AMD is at $410 Billion US, Intel is at $182 Billion, OpenAI sits at $300 Billion US.

$13.012 trillion USD is approximately 229.66 trillion ZAR at an exchange rate of 17.65 ZAR/USD.

Who thinks they don't have enough money to back it up?

What will pop is wannabe tech startups promising to be the "new big thing"

What will continue to grow is the overall demand for infrastructure, chips, memory etc.

 

[Jackal65]

What will pop is wannabe tech startups promising to be the "new big thing"

What will continue to grow is the overall demand for infrastructure, chips, memory etc.

I agree with that but I suspect self hosting will become popular again for one reason only if AI is going to rent out all the server farms there will be no need for other clients. So I suspect hosting is going to get expensive and fast.

 

[Jackal65]

So I woke up sat down and wanted to click on my links that I had on my Brave Browser. None of my links was available. They replaced my links of that of Amazon, takealot and ChatGPT. My links was important to me because I cannot always remember every URL of every page I use. **** you Brave, who gave you the right to replace my ****ing links with what looks like advertisement?

So I am looking into building my own browser. One that I ****ing control, also after uninstalling copilot from Win11 it somehow is still on my computer? We have not moved over to Linux yet because we ran into some driver problems for the 1080ti the 1660ti and the 1070. They work but duel screen turns itself off after 2 hours or so. Nvidia supported drivers was used. So for now I am stuck with Windows.

But by the looks of it not for long because I am willing to give my games up.

 

[Jackal65]

Well that is a thing?

 

[Tman*]

I don't like Docker, it feels like they can close the door on me whenever they want.

Ive actually done something very similar on my road to "digital independence".

I have a N100 mini PC (this guy uses a N150), connected to a 8tb external drive;

1. I run a Plex server, because screw streaming services with their ever increasing costs and ads
2. Auto file / photo backups for all computers and phones via https://www.resilio.com/sync/
3. Pi-hole via docker - massive learning curve for me personally. But I used ai prompts to basically teach me how to get it configured It took a while but its been running for a few months now.
4. Installed n8n on docker to play with some ai agents and automations - works great.

Pc runs 24/7, its in a drawer and uses minimal electricity.

Next steps is to get a local VPN network going, just need to find some time.

Oh, and I tried to host Ollama locally, but N100 says nooo

 

[Jackal65]

Ive actually done something very similar on my road to "digital independence".

I have a N100 mini PC (this guy uses a N150), connected to a 8tb external drive;

1. I run a Plex server, because screw streaming services with their ever increasing costs and ads
2. Auto file / photo backups for all computers and phones via https://www.resilio.com/sync/
3. Pi-hole via docker - massive learning curve for me personally. But I used ai prompts to basically teach me how to get it configured It took a while but its been running for a few months now.
4. Installed n8n on docker to play with some ai agents and automations - works great.

Pc runs 24/7, its in a drawer and uses minimal electricity.

Next steps is to get a local VPN network going, just need to find some time.

Oh, and I tried to host Ollama locally, but N100 says nooo

I have to host the AI on my main PC because the GPU can handle it nothing else can.

I am still at the "build the network" Phase but I don't want Plex or anything like that. I want to host a website locally that is basically a YouTube clone. I load the video into the folder it will host it in the form of web playback. Been working with Ai to build this and got it to work but sound is still a problem. The idea is then I don't own anyone anything and everything is done with local host local code and I actually want that to be the norm.

Take my phone browse to my own local website watch what I want to watch. Or listen to what I want to listen to.

 

[Jackal65]

I build a small file server the other day using Python, what it does is it host files for me that I can then download to any other computer on my network. This is handy when i want to restore a PC but it is not really a audio/video server. So my next step was to build a "YouTube clone." I did this using python again and it kind of worked good enough accept for audio.

Next step, I grabbed my TV-Box that I use for programming and I am in the process to create a locally hosted web-page that will look and feel like YouTube but it will only list my local video files and audio files. It will access a USB drive where I can store up to 120GB of music and video at 360p or 480p I don't need 720p for playback on a phone. The USB drive will also be accessible from the network so I can easily copy files to it and delete files from it. Later I can just add an external SSD to it but 120GB a lot for just testing.

Just tell me if you want me to start posting code

 

[L-Dog]

Many states in the US pushing back on AI saying it will increase the cost of electricity and think a few big data centre projects have been scrapped recently, will be intrestig to see how it all plays out.

Another cool thing I can accross is somone gave 5 AI models $10k to leverage trade. Currently only 2 chinses models are in profit with Gemini and Chat GPT performing the worst by some margin.

Alpha Arena | AI Trading Benchmark

The first benchmark designed to measure AI's investing abilities. Watch AI models trade with real capital.

nof1.ai

 

[Jackal65]

Many states in the US pushing back on AI saying it will increase the cost of electricity and think a few big data centre projects have been scrapped recently, will be intrestig to see how it all plays out.

Another cool thing I can accross is somone gave 5 AI models $10k to leverage trade. Currently only 2 chinses models are in profit with Gemini and Chat GPT performing the worst by some margin.

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Alpha Arena | AI Trading Benchmark

The first benchmark designed to measure AI's investing abilities. Watch AI models trade with real capital.

nof1.ai

The biggest thing I use AI for is coding, I don't know much about it so I am using it to teach me and it is a bad teacher so much so that i finally got myself a proper course, only to realize it wasn't a proper course but BS that any YouTuber had on their channels.

AI as it is now is better for spying on us then what it is at solving problems. I thought how can I build my own and yea sure enough people are doing it. Getting an AI to lift the restrictions is hard. But here is a video to "build your own LLM" I haven't completed it yet Code Your Own Llama 4 LLM from Scratch

I got sick and haven't fully recovered yet. But my thinking is can I build my own without any restrictions?

 

[L-Dog]

The biggest thing I use AI for is coding, I don't know much about it so I am using it to teach me and it is a bad teacher so much so that i finally got myself a proper course, only to realize it wasn't a proper course but BS that any YouTuber had on their channels.

AI as it is now is better for spying on us then what it is at solving problems. I thought how can I build my own and yea sure enough people are doing it. Getting an AI to lift the restrictions is hard. But here is a video to "build your own LLM" I haven't completed it yet Code Your Own Llama 4 LLM from Scratch

I got sick and haven't fully recovered yet. But my thinking is can I build my own without any restrictions?

You can use https://app.virtuals.io/ to create AI agents for crypto, never tried it but might be worth it if you have time.