AI Generated / Assisted Music

OnlyOneKenobi said:
We might be getting Suno v5 soon. They've just dropped a teaser a few hours ago.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1968768847508337011
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I hope it handles other languages better. Took some trial and error. Figured out what words it has issues with and such.
Normally takes several tries to get the lyrics right. It would be great if they could fade in and fade out. While I haven't physically tried to prompt to fade in and fade out, it would be a nice touch.

Any ways this came out really nice, nice and sombre song.
 
I find AI-generated audio both fascinating and disgusting at the same time. The software engineer side of me can appreciate the cool tech behind it and the musician side of me gets the heebie jeebies knowing that millions of hours of AI slop music is flooding streaming services and so many people are completely oblivious.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I find AI-generated audio both fascinating and disgusting at the same time. The software engineer side of me can appreciate the cool tech behind it and the musician side of me gets the heebie jeebies knowing that millions of hours of AI slop music is flooding streaming services and so many people are completely oblivious.
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Yeah uploading to streaming sites, without putting out a notice that it is AI is an issue for me. Before the AI music creation craze, automation has been widely used, lots of artists have used preset loops, or used ideas from somewhere else. Artists crying wolf but they themselves have used generative presets and beats lonnnnng before AI is a bit........WTF to me.

That said it takes some effort to create an AI song if you want decent quality, yes there is some that totally relies only on AI but there area few of us that actually write lyrics with AI assistance, I don't have issue with that. I would write out lyrics partially or lyrical ideas, construct and tighten it after that, with or without AI, add things like vocal chops, echoes, intro/ break down, outro melody, voice changes, speed and instrument style. Plus I test several versions till it is actually well rounded.

This one for example took over 50 credits to get just the right vibe, instrumental beat, echoes, and vocal chops at the right places.
AI is right in my channel name. I don't hide anything. It is a little fun hobby for me, and getting decent views. Have over 240 videos up and not a single person has complained it being AI

 
wizardofid said:
Yeah uploading to streaming sites, without putting out a notice that it is AI is an issue for me. Before the AI music creation craze, automation has been widely used, lots of artists have used preset loops, or used ideas from somewhere else. Artists crying wolf but they themselves have used generative presets and beats lonnnnng before AI is a bit........WTF to me.

That said it takes some effort to create an AI song if you want decent quality, yes there is some that totally relies only on AI but there area few of us that actually write lyrics with AI assistance, I don't have issue with that. I would write out lyrics partially or lyrical ideas, construct and tighten it after that, with or without AI, add things like vocal chops, echoes, intro/ break down, outro melody, voice changes, speed and instrument style. Plus I test several versions till it is actually well rounded.

This one for example took over 50 credits to get just the right vibe, instrumental beat, echoes, and vocal chops at the right places.
AI is right in my channel name. I don't hide anything. It is a little fun hobby for me, and getting decent views. Have over 240 videos up and not a single person has complained it being AI

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I would never listen to AI generated music for enjoyment though, out of curiosity sure. To me music should be something personal from the artist's imagination and personal experiences and not something they just threw credits at and chose the best option.

I get not everybody has the same opinion on what music should be though, but to me AI music isn't music in that sense. Just like AI "art" isn't art.

I guess it's for people that just want a beat to tap their foot to, and that's a huge market.

It also really sucks that these companies are just getting away with using copyright material for the training data. I thought these services would have had to shut down months ago already from all the lawsuits, but apparently not.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I would never listen to AI generated music for enjoyment though, out of curiosity sure. To me music should be something personal from the artist's imagination and personal experiences and not something they just threw credits at and chose the best option.

I get not everybody has the same opinion on what music should be though, but to me AI music isn't music in that sense. Just like AI "art" isn't art.

I guess it's for people that just want a beat to tap their foot to, and that's a huge market.

It also really sucks that these companies are just getting away with using copyright material for the training data. I thought these services would have had to shut down months ago already from all the lawsuits, but apparently not.
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I hate to break it to you, but "real" musicians are using AI and have been for a while, especially in the production and mixing processes by automating tasks as well as songwriting. Many well established artists have used AI as a companion for songwriting.

The tech world is evolving at a rapid pace, 100 years from now the landscape might change again.

I can't sing to save my life, as do many others, so I should be denied access to tools that give me a voice to express what I can't physically.

But we shouldn't ignore the slop real musicians are putting out these days as well. The occasional banger or two the quality of music in general is fcking awful. These days, just about everyone can make and publish a single, it hasn't done the music industry any favours either.

Protect real artists ?. So they can produce the same slop year after year and autotuned to death...fck no. Last few years it has just been year after year of covers and remixes. If you want to protect someone, protect the composers and the songwriters, how many popular artists write their own songs a handful, most can sing, about all they are good at.

Last point is the assumption that AI just creates a track for you, sure you can with min effort just click a button, if you had any idea how it actually works to you be surprised how much of human interaction can alter the outcome, taking something that is slop to a banger.

You can specify specific voices, key, the layout of the lyrics, add things like echoes, chants, vocal runs, as well as vocal chops, and it isn't just a matter of prompting to do those things. You need to creatively add those aspects to your lyrics. It helps to if you understand music theory as well.

This song for example I had a specific style and mood and in mind, and lyrics took a few tries to get right. This for example is about as good as any real artist can put out

This is another example, SUNO doesn't officially support duets but, you need to learn the prompts, tags. You can manually edit and adds prompts it should have at the right places. It takes considerable amount of effort, to get quality, good beats going. This is a very personal song, if you actually pay attention it isn't just some random lyrics but a love song of unrequited love and dreaming about a future he would have with a specific person.



This is another personal song about someone with dementia, explaining how they feel and giving them a voice. Considering my mom has dementia expressing what I think she might be thinking and seeing.


Music is a great medium to express what I feel and mood of a particular day. Because I use AI to do it, I am evil. Fck that.
 
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