All in a twist

1. Bad news about the Eassy cable. Which countries are in this or not? Who's financing this thing anyway?

2. More bad news about the Eassy cable: SA's over-reliance on this is known by other proposed participants. SA is negotiating from the weaker stance.

3. Article makes me suggest to myself to think about who's playing politics here, and who's interests lie where regarding Telkom and government and the SAT-3 coin-tossing going on at home. Is government, complicit with Telkom, bluffing on their SAT-3 stances whilst secretly scrambling to guarentee Eassy 1*with/2*without Telkom's Eassy participation, AND *thereby 'fake' competition in the 'bandwidth' arena by having two wholesalers, but each controlled by Telkom; *thereby justify allowing Telkom to retain full rights to SAT-3? Scary thoughts.

4. The uncertainty of our government's telecoms policies as well as Telkom's Corporate nature seem to now be internationally notorious. Congratulations. Now it's so bad that even other African countries are too scared to trust the spoken word of the SA Minister of Communications.

5. Even Kenya (and therefore Telkom Kenya) are wise to Telkom and SA DoC. They are parading around like a peacock displaying their belief that 'their' submarine cable will draw investors away from Eassy. This is Kenya saying that in this matter specifically they are more credible, more trusted, than SA.

6. Ten points bonus to Telkom for playing, so dramatically, the role of the 'hard-done-by', defenceless monopoly. You almost have some people convinced.

7. Fire the Minister.
 
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The way i see it, Telkom firmly has a foot on the new cable, and no doubt will be pulling it thru our ar$es to milk us dry!.
 
My theory on this whole sorry saga is the following

Infracom (Govnt Controlling historical Fibre Assets) was created is to control/throttle a future Neotel connection using ex Eskom/Transtel Fibres currently in Sub Saharan Africa to connect up to Kenya.

If the above connection had to happen, without Telkom/DOC control/ownership/interference then International Connectivity would freed and unleashed from an SA Perspective.

However Nelspruit/Swaziland/Mozambique is a short hop into ESSAY, without Telkom/DOC influence on landing station.

What is the Mozamibiquan Involvement in ESSAY

For me this is the big problem. The rest is a smokescreen

For another view see http://www.ralden.com/C1/EASSy/default.aspx
 
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Telkom is quite obviously sabotaging EASY in order to continue with SAT3 price gouging. As Telkom is the government's cash cow, it is quite obviously being done at the governments instigation.

If the government were really trying to bring down telecoms costs they have ample opportunity of showing such intent, but, as they have done everything to sabotage all attempts by ICASA amongst others, one can only conclude that they are milking the country for their own ends.

Unfortunately I cannot see any change in this attitude in the near or medium term.
 
I would like to hear Neotel's stance on this situation.
 
Everytime i see Shope-Mafole name i see something to do with Telkom. Heck I thought she worked for them. Anyways unless someone wakes up in the gov we headed for another 5+ yrs of raping. I wonder what the gov's excuse will be this time round. 2ndly .. did they say $10million? ONLY 10 Mill? F#$% and they making such a big thing about it? granted thats like R75mil but c'mon.. If kenya gov can buy its own cable, and we are one of the richest country in Africa wth is the gov smoking getting a telecoms company, that openly states it wants to milk the country dry and holds us randsom with the existing cable, involved with the new one? The gov is really looking to fill their coffers eh?
 
Things are desperately going wrong in our country. Everything our Government touches becomes tainted.
 
Shope-Mafole denies quarrelling with the Kenyan delegation. "Kenya has never told me it is unhappy with our proposals. I am confident it will come on board," she says. But, she adds, even if no additional signatories are found, the cable system will go ahead and will be financially practical.
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No - they're just laying their own cable because it seemed like a good idea at the time :rolleyes:

Whats going to happen when the cable isnt laid in time for the WC? Is kick-off going to be made imminent?
 
VJB 449 said:
Things are desperately going wrong in our country. Everything our Government touches becomes tainted.
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And everything the governement does is criticised whether it is right or wrong. If this cable was placed into private sector hands, like the SAT-3 cable, everyone would be complaing of a repeat of the SAT-3 saga where the public has been held hostage and raped dry.

To avoid this, the Governement intends to maintain control of EASSY, ensure that that charges are cost based, and that access is available to all service providers. And now everyone is complaining of a SAT-3 repeat!?!? :eek:

So basically, it doesn't matter what Governement does, everyone will complain anyway.

We need this cable, and I for one, welcome the fact that the governement is pushing ahead with it regardless of the obstacles.
 
How do they expect to impose charge regulations when they themseilves don't own it but rather expect teleco's to pay for it? Obviously teleco's will want a return and in Telkom's case a massive return. Gov shoulda just bought it and sold access to it for fot cost + a small bit as investment profit.
 
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