All things Sunsynk (Deye, Inge, etc...)

[mentorm]

Thanks Speedster. I have a 5.12 Shoto. I was just wondering if there were any settings to maximise output. I will leave settings as is.

 

[furpile]

@mentorm your Time of Use box is not checked in the System Work Mode screen so the schedule there has no effect. Not sure what settings the inverter uses if that is not selected.

F34 error is because you are using too much power from the inverter. Even with AC passthrough there is only so much it can do and then it switches off to protect itself. 5kW is easy to exceed depending on what loads you have connected to the system.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Mine shows 20w trickle, apparently it needs to be slightly higher for prepaid... But isn't that from the grid, not to it?

By default it’s 20W.

I’ve trimmed it down to 5W.

But yes you are right it’s meant to be from the grid but there is some weird correlation with this setting which makes it show as exported, at least on the Sunsynk anyway.

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Looking at the Deye pictures above it’s even called Zero Export Power.

On the Sunsynk it’s called “Grid Trickle Feed”

 

[Speedster]

Why 80%? I'd go 100%

Also, with signal island mode unchecked you probably don't have an earth neutral bond. Get that sorted ASAP before someone gets badly hurt.

Is your battery connected via CAN?

 

[SauRoNZA]

Why 80%? I'd go 100%

Also, with signal island mode unchecked you probably don't have an earth neutral bond. Get that sorted ASAP before someone gets badly hurt.

Is your battery connected via CAN?

Why 100%? Or even 80?

Or is there no solar in this equation?

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Oh right I scrolled up.

Yea just make it 100% and done. But as it stands with no time of day setting it is probably already doing exactly that.

 

[RonSwanson]

I read that if you wipe your panels with glycerin it creates a magnifying effect. So almost double the capacity.

En as jy jou gat met 'n giftige haasvel afvee dan kry jy aambuie.

Seriously, use another font when being funny, there are many that will read it and actually try it out.

 

[Fcon_Vpro]

Hi Guys
I have only had my system for a few months now and looking for some guidance on the solar production others are getting from their panels.
- 5KW SunSynk, 7 x 550W Panels in a single string on one MPPT
- Tiled Roof at ~18 Deg almost facing ~NNW, Gauteng
The peak solar I am seeing on clear sky day is ~3300W (load is demanding more) vs theoretical max is 3850W. With cloud edge it peaks higher sometimes on cloudy days.
Is this the normal expected yield do I have losses somewhere?
Interested to hear what others consistently get vs their total installed capacity.
Cheers

Which 550w panel do you have?
And do you know if your sunsynk 5kw firmware supports 11a or 13a per string?(Think the spec listed on right hand side or inverter might tell you unless your installer updated your firmware)

My guess would be that your firmware supports the older 11a per string and that you aren't getting your max because the mppt will clip at 11a instead of 13a.
So for example, i pulled the first 550w panel i could find and its rated at 40.99v and 13.42a.
11a firmware will give you 40.99x11=450w per panel so a total of 3150w
13a firmware will give you 40.99x13=532w per panel so a total of 3730w.

I chose smaller 470w jinko panels specifically because they were rated just under 11a vs 500+w panels are usually rated at 13 or more amps which won't hit the panel max on the 5kw sunsynk inverter. The advantage of your bigger sized panels is they will provide more power in less light, but again will never reach their max.

I hit the 6500w(14x470w) inverter max whenever I have clear sunny skies and my load/Battery requires it.

 

[Fcon_Vpro]

Why 80%? I'd go 100%

Also, with signal island mode unchecked you probably don't have an earth neutral bond. Get that sorted ASAP before someone gets badly hurt.

Is your battery connected via CAN?

I also noticed the CAN is not set.
Also the 200ah is incorrect and needs to be set to 100ah.
The max discharge should be set to 100a, well technically 50a would be safer seeing its a 0.5C recommended battery but it does support a 1C max if he needs the full 5000w at any given time.

 

[wingnut771]

Which 550w panel do you have?
And do you know if your sunsynk 5kw firmware supports 11a or 13a per string?(Think the spec listed on right hand side or inverter might tell you unless your installer updated your firmware)

My guess would be that your firmware supports the older 11a per string and that you aren't getting your max because the mppt will clip at 11a instead of 13a.
So for example, i pulled the first 550w panel i could find and its rated at 40.99v and 13.42a.
11a firmware will give you 40.99x11=450w per panel so a total of 3150w
13a firmware will give you 40.99x13=532w per panel so a total of 3730w.

I chose smaller 470w jinko panels specifically because they were rated just under 11a vs 500+w panels are usually rated at 13 or more amps which won't hit the panel max on the 5kw sunsynk inverter. The advantage of your bigger sized panels is they will provide more power in less light, but again will never reach their max.

I hit the 6500w(14x470w) inverter max whenever I have clear sunny skies and my load/Battery requires it.
View attachment 1456629

How are they orientated?

 

[RonSwanson]

Hi Guys
I have only had my system for a few months now and looking for some guidance on the solar production others are getting from their panels.
- 5KW SunSynk, 7 x 550W Panels in a single string on one MPPT
- Tiled Roof at ~18 Deg almost facing ~NNW, Gauteng
The peak solar I am seeing on clear sky day is ~3300W (load is demanding more) vs theoretical max is 3850W. With cloud edge it peaks higher sometimes on cloudy days.
Is this the normal expected yield do I have losses somewhere?
Interested to hear what others consistently get vs their total installed capacity.
Cheers

Solar panel test conditions are quite extreme, just like the vehicle that you drive's fuel consumption. They do it at 04H00 in the morning at sea level with all auxilliary systems turned off and tyres at 3 bar plus.

You are not doing too badly, due to orientation, azimuth and many other assumptions already filled in.

STC and NOCT - Solar Panel Test Conditions Explained - SolarDesignGuide

STC and NOCT – Solar Panel Test Conditions Explained Solar PV panels come in a variety of different technologies and sizes, so it is important to be able to compare them fairly to one another. International standards have been developed to do just that, and the electrical ratings displayed on...

solardesignguide.com

 

[Tabac]

En as jy jou gat met 'n giftige haasvel afvee dan kry jy aambuie.

Seriously, use another font when being funny, there are many that will read it and actually try it out.

Sorry Oom Ron.

FYI to the gullible: Glycerin doesn't work. Try a polyurethane varnish. It'll also protect from heavy rain.

 

[Fcon_Vpro]

How are they orientated?

Mine are North facing

 

[The Darkness]

What are the best panels to pair with a 5K Deye inverter? Also, any recommendations for an excellent supplier and installer in CT?

 

[Mzezman]

What are the best panels to pair with a 5K Deye inverter? Also, any recommendations for an excellent supplier and installer in CT?

JA or Canadian anything rated 455w and up. Reality is whatever you can get your hands on for a decent price. The layout of where they will be installed also plays a factor - if you don't have much roof space then get the 550/600w but if you have ample space get the 455/500. Difference in panel performance is miniscule

 

[PRP]

Which 550w panel do you have?
And do you know if your sunsynk 5kw firmware supports 11a or 13a per string?(Think the spec listed on right hand side or inverter might tell you unless your installer updated your firmware)

Canadian Solar 550W Panel and yes inverter supports 13A
I can see it toping out at 12.7A in the app.

I chose 550W as their nominal is ~13.2A which is right on spec and the width fitted perfectly on my roof, 7 side by side with space to add another row in front if I want to.

 

[TheLuckmeister]

How noisy is a Sunsynk 5kw?

Is it too noisy to put inside and better to put in the garage?
I'm a bit worried about the heat in the garage during summer. It gets boiling hot in there.

Just wondering if it is really noisy with the fans going etc or if it isn't much different than my current power trolley?

 

[PRP]

How noisy is a Sunsynk 5kw?

Is it too noisy to put inside and better to put in the garage?
I'm a bit worried about the heat in the garage during summer. It gets boiling hot in there.

Just wondering if it is really noisy with the fans going etc or if it isn't much different than my current power trolley?

5KW has no fans but a lot of people add some to keep it cool. Look for some post I made earlier in this thread to see what I did. If you run 12V fans at ~7V they are almost silent and my inverter is always cool now.

 

[Fcon_Vpro]

How noisy is a Sunsynk 5kw?

Is it too noisy to put inside and better to put in the garage?
I'm a bit worried about the heat in the garage during summer. It gets boiling hot in there.

Just wondering if it is really noisy with the fans going etc or if it isn't much different than my current power trolley?

The 5kw is very quiet because it has no fans but does have a slight high pitched electrical whine. Its not very loud but hard to say what it will sound like inside of a house because I have mine in the garage. It has operated fine in the heat but does get very hot.
Its definitely quieter than my old mecer 12v inverter, but its a completely different sound.

 

[Tabac]

I can’t find that in the app, only the voltage and current graphs on the input section where the max I see is 12.7A. Now you making me think they actually might be limiting it to that as I can’t find any graph over the last week with a higher value

Use this as a thermostat

Temp Controller + Disp - 12V - Micro Robotics

Temp Controller + Disp - 12V

www.robotics.org.za

To power it a high input voltage (>60V) DC/DC connected to battery terminals inside the inverter to go to 12V. I used https://www.robotics.org.za/BUCK-12V3A
Then another DC/DC to run the fans at about 7 or 8V where they are almost silent, can’t find the one I used. Got the cheapest but it didn’t work so they exchanged it for a slightly better one in person.

I just glued three fans together and layed them on top of the inverter fins on some rubber feet. Now the heat sink doesn’t go above 40DegC.

I used 2x AC fans on my rack, to make them silent I put them in series, but they turned too slow, so I put them in parallel, with a very high wattage (i think that it was a 40 Ohm) resistor in series.

Pics please

 

[RonSwanson]

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Pics please

No pics right now, but one of these, and two of these.
Connect like this:



The resistor gets very hot, so either swop it for a 100W one, or fasten it tightly to the cabinet so that heat can dissipate. Some heatsink grease won't hurt either.