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hunters = spam 1 button and top the dps meters , they will be the top damage in wotlk as well, but I agree if your from Sa rather roll a caster class I myself am forced to go boomkin / restro for my guild in the expansion they also refuse to recruit any more people from South-Africa due to our connection issues.
 
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So...

Anyone here who tried playing an alt, but keep going back to your main and not play wit the alt at all again?

I'm having this problem...how can you have more than 1 char? I have tried many classes and I still like my mage best and I still have so much to do and kill with him.

What I do not understand is these lot that have alts, but their mains aren't even geared yet >.<
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Well then a mage is for you same happened with my druid he sucked at lvl 18 i left him leveled 3 other alts then stopped them at lvl 35 got back to my druid took him to lvl 70.But then later i got WTF pawned by casters as feral but i pawned wariors and rogues.And i specced moonkin to stand better chance vs these guys but locks still pawn me ones with good gear and know how to play.

Probably go fullout PVE if i get WOTLK will avoid pvp at all cost WOW pvp just got too much problems doest feel goed but the PVE is way better WAR pVE instances fail.
 
Morgoth said:
hunters = spam 1 button and top the dps meters , they will be the top damage in wotlk as well, but I agree if your from Sa rather roll a caster class I myself am forced to go boomkin / restro for my guild in the expansion they also refuse to recruit any more people from South-Africa due to our connection issues.
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One of the biggest hunter mis-conceptions from other classes. Its not really just a one button I WIN dps meters class. There is quite a lot more to it honestly. Its the one class that allows you to do a hell of a lot of damage by just copying someone elses build yes, but really thats more pre-noob-nerf-patch. Things have changed so much now, but everyone is still testing / experimenting with optimal builds / rotations. You do know BM macro's are no longer working hey ?

Only reason so many in experienced hunters could do high dps / damage was thanks to macro's, but even those hunters very seldomly broke the 2500 dps mark pre patch. You require a lot of understanding / theory knowledge on the class to break those high dps figures.
 
One word: Quartz

The perfect casting bar for us Saffers :)

And I do agree with the melee class issue. It's annoying.

Also have a lvl 70 hunter I bummed off a friend ^^ Fun to play, but too much work to play 2 DPS classes.
 
Well yes and no Morgoth....

Lemme justify my answer. Reading up all the latest macro's in EJ forums wont help you much if you dont understand things like pet focus generation and specific talent points in specific places (things that come to mind : Animal handler + Go for the throat). <-- All based on BM hunter builds btw.

I have seen soooooooo many hunters copying macro's and playing techniques and yet they dont dish out the BIG BOY dps figures... why ? Because they did'nt take talents like animal handler and its no use if your pet does a ton of damage, but his Hit rating sucks, also, its no use spending 2/2 in go for the throat if your hunter is sitting on 12 % crit. Or having 0/2 in Go for the throat, yet the hunter is sitting with 32 % + crit.

And this is the problem I have with EJ forums. Its become a renowned source of valuable / reliable information, but at the same time, it lured a lot of inexperienced hunters there, asking basic, basic, basic hunter 101 questions. In all honesty, there are tons of other forums out there to ask the n00bish questions, keep the difficult stuff aside for the proper theorycrafterrs to work on... rather than posting **** like, I cant do more than 700 dps in kara, I am clicking this macro... pls help.

Another prime example I see so much. How many hunters do you see with ravager pets running around still ? Quite a lot, they might have been the best dps pets prepatch... but nowdays they suck. So, I stick to my comment about hunter class has a hell of a lot of information you gotta keep track of, and update your character accordingly. Latest example, have a look how many BM hunters bothered to spend talent points in the updated new version of animal handler since wednesday's patch.

And thats what I like about the hunter class, there is so much you gotta keep track of, so many little things you gotta keep in mind when spec'ing your hunter, its not just a 1 button i win dps meters class. Honestly, try it, there is a lot more to it ;)
 
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Its all about finding the class that suits you and your play style.

I have tried other classes, but I keep loosing interest in them. Honestly I love the hunter class the most. So much theory and concepts you have to understand under the class, and I don't know how anyone from South Africa can play a melee class... to put it blunt, its friggen annoying, irritating and frustrating on our latency. Even on my Ex farming bot druid that got banned, having those annoying "not behind enemy" or enemy not in range error thingies... damn, yet on your side, you are right on top of the mob is just stupidly frustrating.

Ranged DPS FTW on our latency thank you. Even healers with split second reaction times... on our latency... no thanks.

Best is to try a few classes, and see what you enjoy the most. I dont even feel the need to roll an alt, I am that happy with the hunter class... Same with the expansion, if I do continue, I am not re rolling classes.
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Feral has ranged bug in mellee wich blizzard ignores countless post has been made aboout it in official forums.Only in cat from.

Being a hybrid in pvp also suck sometimes they made sure druids cant do anything verywell.
I just feel way underpowered in bg had epic gear in all specs.
 
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But Boom... thats the way it should be. You cant be a hybrid and be the best at healing, dps, and tanking.

It would break the balance so much of the game. Everyone would roll a hybrid.
The hybrid should be "jack of all trades, master of none".

And that's one of the things that annoy me about the expansion. Hybrids are becoming insanely powerful.

**edit... and btw you are wrong about druids. Pre patch, a resto druid was pretty much unstoppable in PVP. your problem is.. you wanted to be a DPS dude. And druids pre patch, were LOL-burst DPS. Boomkins now, are doing sick sick sick damage.
 
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One of the biggest hunter mis-conceptions from other classes. Its not really just a one button I WIN dps meters class. There is quite a lot more to it honestly. Its the one class that allows you to do a hell of a lot of damage by just copying someone elses build yes, but really thats more pre-noob-nerf-patch. Things have changed so much now, but everyone is still testing / experimenting with optimal builds / rotations. You do know BM macro's are no longer working hey ?

Only reason so many in experienced hunters could do high dps / damage was thanks to macro's, but even those hunters very seldomly broke the 2500 dps mark pre patch. You require a lot of understanding / theory knowledge on the class to break those high dps figures.
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Shadow Warior>Hunter :)
Guys not always about who tops dps you know playing a druid for so long i realised how usefull you can be without toping dps.
Played Warior Priest in Warhammer almost like paladin you dont top dps or healing but you can be ussefull.
 
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But Boom... thats the way it should be. You cant be a hybrid and be the best at healing, dps, and tanking.

It would break the balance so much of the game. Everyone would roll a hybrid.
The hybrid should be "jack of all trades, master of none".

And that's one of the things that annoy me about the expansion. Hybrids are becoming insanely powerful.

**edit... and btw you are wrong about druids. Pre patch, a resto druid was pretty much unstoppable in PVP. your problem is.. you wanted to be a DPS dude. And druids pre patch, were LOL-burst DPS. Boomkins now, are doing sick sick sick damage.
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sadly a paladin has the best burst now :( hunters are no1 dpsers face rollers!
 
That is one statement that I have to agree with...

You see waaaay too many people with the single mindset of topping DPS meters. All classes bring their own contribution to a raid. This is what usually splits the real asset players from those who are not.

Those who do not understand their class and are only capable of "rolling their faces on their keyboard" and ask for dps meters after every pull are the ones to avoid.
 
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Yea I think PVE wise hunters will still be no1 dps class... but I also do know they are nerfing hunters big time in the coming patches.

Will it be enough ... dont think so. With the correct rotation / playing style, hunters can be unstoppable on damage results. I still tend to think BM will be the king build to aim for.

And yes I agree in BG's ... hunters are suffering, pally's are insane now. No idea just how raid viable retro will be ... but as it is now, most of the game is totally out of balance, and it shows in PVP.
 
The other funny thing I noticed lately is that the majority of players complaining about paladin dmg are ....... yeah you guessed it ..... hunters :D

It must be such a terrible feeling for them seeing their names below ret paladins on the dps meters they measure themselves by. :rolleyes:
 
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The other funny thing I noticed lately is that the majority of players complaining about paladin dmg are ....... yeah you guessed it ..... hunters :D

It must be such a terrible feeling for them seeing their names below ret paladins on the dps meters they measure themselves by. :rolleyes:
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Bloody retidins are making me work hard now -.-
It's me and Ret pally at top of DPS meters now through whole of BT,Titan's Grip and Ret is pretty overpowered <3
 
Well playing a dps class you sort of have to bench yourself on DPS standards...
Would you prefer hunters comparing themselves to healers with how much healing they done on their pets ?

Hunters are not a hybrid calls... all three our builds are built around one thing... DPS... if not our personal DPS, to boost the dps of other DPS'ers.

So what would you like hunters to bench on ?
The first round of pally nerfs kicked in, and I am pretty sure there are more coming. Oh well...
 
Pornolio said:
Yea I think PVE wise hunters will still be no1 dps class... but I also do know they are nerfing hunters big time in the coming patches.

Will it be enough ... dont think so. With the correct rotation / playing style, hunters can be unstoppable on damage results. I still tend to think BM will be the king build to aim for.

And yes I agree in BG's ... hunters are suffering, pally's are insane now. No idea just how raid viable retro will be ... but as it is now, most of the game is totally out of balance, and it shows in PVP.
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Kinda feel the same way after playing WAR i thougth nice new talent patch on WOW is out i specced my fatowl and went into bg and got WTF pawned by pala in greens.

I logged out and loged my Swordmaster in War and wtf pawned othe rpeople to feel better lol.
 
I have 3 raiding characters. Warrior prot. Priest holy, and warlock. Currently my warlock is the main. Ill be leveling him to 80 first.

I switch between them often. In fact I have done the MT job, healer and dps with all three in SSC, TK and MH. They all have mixe of T4/T5, badge gear, MH drops.

Im lucky in that our guild isnt so hardcore. We are casual. Most of us can field a dps and a tank or healer. Few like myself can fill all 3 slots. I once ran ZA 3 times in one day. Once on each char. DiD Kara twice this weekend, if fact. Dps and healing. We would all swop over and fill up any slots with whoever logged. We do not pug raids :)
 
Played with my druid last night...decided I'm not going to go raid with the guild seeing that I don't need anything :p

Was fun...but leveling is such a bore =S
 
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