Am I the only one that expected things to be different

DJ... said:
But you did order 100Mbps on their system...:confused:
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Yes, but the connection between CPE and my router is 100mb - not 1gb as I would have expected.

Thinking maybe its a borked patch cable.
 
myKey said:
Maybe they installed cat5, just do a quick swap and see?
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It's my own cable, that I was running to my ADSL modem.
Swap = mission, going to just get a new cat5e from work
 
Don't know exactly what op is talking about. Telkom is not the only provider in town or I think even the biggest. The market is still young but most areas will never have more than one provider in any case. Consolidation hasn't happened yet. Once is does you'll still get your isp and line from one provider but it will be more a case of them also leasing lines from other providers than it is now. At least we won't be forced to take services we don't need.
 
By the way, will the fibre speeds and pings start dropping as the fibre uptake increases in a particular area, similar to ADSL and LTE?
 
Borrels said:
By the way, will the fibre speeds and pings start dropping as the fibre uptake increases in a particular area, similar to ADSL and LTE?
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Depends on the technology the provider is using, and the size of their connections between nodes and central offices/ISPs
 
Borrels said:
By the way, will the fibre speeds and pings start dropping as the fibre uptake increases in a particular area, similar to ADSL and LTE?
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generally not as fibre providers have large backhaul links (generally larger than dsl and lte backhauls)

for example vumatel might provision 10gbps for a certain area, whereas telkom would only provision roughly 160mbps or so for that same area.

there is a lot more that goes into this but it gives you a rough idea as to why fibre speeds/latency doesn't drop as much as dsl/lte does when uptake increases
 
ghostR said:
generally not as fibre providers have large backhaul links (generally larger than dsl and lte backhauls)

for example vumatel might provision 10gbps for a certain area, whereas telkom would only provision roughly 160mbps or so for that same area.

there is a lot more that goes into this but it gives you a rough idea as to why fibre speeds/latency doesn't drop as much as dsl/lte does when uptake increases
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GPON could see issues if they start splitting up the links...?
 
DJ... said:
And you're not going to get pricing down for anyone without Telkom risking competition commission lawsuits from the usual suspects. Yes, IPC is very expensive and the cost has very little basis in what I can reconcile with reality, but it is a very good product being offered, that with just a little bit of work could be ideal for the future...
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I've seen a lot of negative comments about Telkom IPC, but they seem to relate predominantly to pricing. I get that. However, if you take away the pricing issue, and the negative emotion around Telkom, is IPC a good or bad thing? Why? Are there any advantages or disadvantages to it?

DJ, with you being in the industry, I would love an objective (technical) view of Telkom IPC. You seem to allude that it could be, and I am just keen to learn more about exactly what it is, how it works, and why is it good or bad. Happy for others to comment as well.
 
IPC is just an interconnect between telkom's adsl network and an ISP
 
maccaman said:
I've seen a lot of negative comments about Telkom IPC, but they seem to relate predominantly to pricing. I get that. However, if you take away the pricing issue, and the negative emotion around Telkom, is IPC a good or bad thing? Why? Are there any advantages or disadvantages to it?

DJ, with you being in the industry, I would love an objective (technical) view of Telkom IPC. You seem to allude that it could be, and I am just keen to learn more about exactly what it is, how it works, and why is it good or bad. Happy for others to comment as well.
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It's a great product in that you can effortlessly reach any dsl (and now fibre) user from anywhere in the country. That's about the only real advantage though. What's hampering it is as was said the price and that ISPs can't provision capacity on demand so users either suffer from that or they overpay. If Telkom addressed that issue it would be a greater benefit than a price cut.
 
Swa said:
It's a great product in that you can effortlessly reach any dsl (and now fibre) user from anywhere in the country. That's about the only real advantage though. What's hampering it is as was said the price and that ISPs can't provision capacity on demand so users either suffer from that or they overpay. If Telkom addressed that issue it would be a greater benefit than a price cut.
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Thanks for that explanation, the previous comments now make more sense. I would like to believe that Telkom (or I guess Openserve in this case) sees the light, because I would assume the new fibre providers (Vumatel, Metro, etc.) can elect to avoid Telkom's IPC? So either the service must improve (e.g. capacity on demand), or the price will have to drop.
 
maccaman said:
Thanks for that explanation, the previous comments now make more sense. I would like to believe that Telkom (or I guess Openserve in this case) sees the light, because I would assume the new fibre providers (Vumatel, Metro, etc.) can elect to avoid Telkom's IPC? So either the service must improve (e.g. capacity on demand), or the price will have to drop.
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Because VUMA and the like builds their own infrastructure, they completely avoid Telkom, so there is no need for IPC costs or anything
 
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