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Ok so anyways i bought this cpu, now COD mw2 runs what i think it pretty poor even though i have a 9800gx2. It seems like low frame rates regardless of the settings i use, so if i run the game full it feels slow if i run it low it feels slow which leads me to believe it must be the cpu that cannot cope?

Do you think it is possible that the amd 245 dual core is not supplying the gpu with enough data and COD is running like crap because of the cpu?

Also is there a major performance drop using an am3 on a am2 mobo, i ask this because if the cpu is the problem i must choose between the 940 and 965.

Could the chipset on my cheap ass mobo be causing the poor performance? i know it cannot believe my vga is the problem or maybe it is.
 
Well my brother plays Cod6 maxed out on a 4600+ with a 4870.

Could maybe be graphics card over heating. Could be the card doesn't support sli. Could be hard drive or ram.
 
Qwikslver said:
Well my brother plays Cod6 maxed out on a 4600+ with a 4870.

Could maybe be graphics card over heating. Could be the card doesn't support sli. Could be hard drive or ram.
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Seeing what you said here, maybe its an nvidia thing. My 4600+ seems to bottleneck my 8800gt in this game, max settings for me was unplayable. Yet my friend with 8800gts 512 and 5600+ has no issues which is why I thought it was prob just a CPU issue.
 
You will not have any performance drop putting an am3 chip into an am2+ board - only you won't be able to use ddr3 and some other features. The speed will be just the same. Rather go for the 955be than the 965 if given a choice imo. I have a 965 but only because it was very cheap from Prophecy.

I'm not sure why you're getting such poor performance - is it every game or just MW2? The 9800gx2 is a very powerful card for a 245 but I can't think it would be so crippled that it couldn't actually play adequately.
 
You know it does play.

Let me put it this way, it seems like no matter the setting that it has low frame rate, nothing responds very fast. Seems almost like something is holding it back. Imagine playing a game at 25 FPS that is what it feels like. Dunno how to explain it other than the graphics seems slow or laggy

Does cod maybe have problems with sli do you think? Bf 2 runs like a dream but then it is an old game.

Sight it feels exactly the same on low and 1024x768 that is why i think it could be the cpu struggling.
 
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I would think games have loads of repetitive code segments, so perhaps CPU cache is an issue?
 
Nope, i got a q9550 pc but to setup steam will be a mission now.

Going to get a better cpu end of the month i think. Could be a cache issue rift, i am sure this cheap cpu is not really meant for intense gaming.
 
Try some other games, you should have NO problems with that CPU & GPU. Maybe it's some issue like with SLI or drivers or COD needs an update or whatever.

Sure it's not AMD's fastest but really!
 
No i hear that but if the cpu is struggling the gpu will under perform badly surely? I will try new drivers but i think the 965 quadcore is looking tasty.
 
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ATI cards give a lot better performance than Nvidia cards when paired with low end dual core chips. Especially on the high end: HD4890 beats GTX285, 4870x2 beats GTX295. Will post links later if proof needed. It's too bad that graphics cards are reviewed and compared with i7 920@4Ghz so that we never really see the difference. Basically the Nvidia card (especially SLI) needs a lot more CPU power to give the performance that you would expect.
 
Ya that is what i am thinking, i kinda knew that when i bought the cpu but was slightly cash strapped and someone looked at me funny when i told then i have a 9800gx2 with a 245 :D.

Checking stock on the 965 and going to upgrade to that.

AMD Phenom II X4 925, 6MB L2 Cache, AM3, R 1,172 excl. R 1,336 incl.
AMD Phenom II X4 940, 8MB, AM2+, 3GHZ L2 Cache Quad Core R 1,415 excl. R 1,613 incl.
AMD Phenom II X4 965, 8MB, AM2+, 3GHZ L2 Cache Quad Core R 1,759 excl. R 2,005 incl.

Should i go for the am3 one or stick with am2 do you think?
 
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The 965 is worth the extra money you'll pay. It's the most powerful cpu AMD has going atm. I dunno just go for the best you can afford. I said before that 955 is perhpas a better bet than 965 because it overclocks just as well - unless you get the c3 revision. The AM3 only really offers the ability to use ddr3 which is negligible anyway.
 
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Here's some links: GTX295 and GTX285 gets beaten badly by a HD4870x2 and HD4890 when using a more powerful Phenom II X2 550BE. It pretty clear that the Nvidia cards only do what they're supposed to when you've got a good quadcore and even then they're more expensive than ATI with the same performance :/ Wonder how people have missed this?!?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-8.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-9.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-11.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-12.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-13.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,2477-14.html
 
Run 3DMark06 and compare your graphics score to others with the same card, that should indicate whether or not it's the card that's the problem

With my GX2 i scored the following

SM2.0 7463
HDR SM3.0 8406

Your results should be inline with that

Also run GPU-Z to make sure the card is not being underclocked
 
It doesn't matter if nVidia cards are slower under dual-cores or whatever. An 8800GT should get decent framerates with COD 6, let alone a 9800GX2!
 
cerebus said:
The 965 is worth the extra money you'll pay. It's the most powerful cpu AMD has going atm. I dunno just go for the best you can afford. I said before that 955 is perhpas a better bet than 965 because it overclocks just as well - unless you get the c3 revision. The AM3 only really offers the ability to use ddr3 which is negligible anyway.
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Pray do tell where one can get a C3 955BE or a C3 965BE?
Mine is just listed as a RB-C2.

Haven't been paying much attention to the 965BE, but just did some reading and there seems to be more to it than a 200MHz kick in the pants.

What's the actual deal with the memory clock on these? 2 sticks max'd to 1600 or 4 sticks @ 1333? bit-tech information for the 965BE (C3) and the 955BE have a paragraph each on this, but it rewords to the same setup.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/04/23/amd-phenom-ii-x4-955-black-edition-cpu-am3/1

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/11/04/amd-phenom-ii-x4-965-be-c3-review/1
 
965 be is just a 200mhz upgrade from 955be - except that c1+2 revisions ran at 140w whereas the c3 revision runs at 125w - i.e. cooler, better overclocking, less power consumption.

The way to tell the difference is at the end of the product code it will have either an I or an M. M is C3. You should contact suppliers to specifically order C3 if you're looking to buy.

i'm not sure about memory - i'm running ddr2800 lol
 
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