AMD PC build

Swa said:
You miss the point. You continue to focus on the CPU when that's not all there is. The increased memory speed and ability to xfire is already a plus for the AMD. With Intel you had to deliberately skip on features to make budget. So what would you get for that R1000 extra of a similar Intel setup?

Can upgrade to 2133MHz or do xfire for one. With Intel you would have to add that R1000 just to get the board support. Then you are still sitting with 1600MHz memory and single graphics card.
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Memory speed does not make that big a difference, for AMD it's more advantageous. You keep on harping about xfire when the OP has a R7k budget. How are you gonna fit a xfire solution into that price? At R7k you cannot even spec a GTX 970 (you said GPU trumps all which I agree with, unless you hit a bottleneck). Maybe a R9 280X? Oh future purchace of another gpu? You gonna need a better PSU to go with it. People on a budget don't do sli or xfire most of the time, it's for big spenders.

I presented some Intel builds earlier (& my initial AMD build I was gonna go for), now I'm gonna ask you to provide us with an AMD build within the same budget that will outperform the Intel build. If you pick a cheap ass 600W PSU for example I will adjust the Intel build accordingly. Pick the MB of your choice. You say there is too much focus on the CPU let's reference comparitive gaming benchmarks with the same GPU, at the end of the day it's FPS that matters in gaming is it not? In normal productivity stuff the AMD will be behind regardless.

Hoping to see your build recommendation soon.
 
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Ponder, the issue is how we always hear from you guys how Intel outperforms AMD but when it comes down to it you always without exception skimp on some part and in this case the mobo to make it fit the same price range. That already proves something. You mention his R7k budget but when it came down to it the guys here had a tough time trying to fit a better performing Intel rig into that and still weren't able to manage it. I think things are as clear as they've always been. I don't have to provide a better performing AMD rig as you are doing it all on your own.
 
Swa said:
Ponder, the issue is how we always hear from you guys how Intel outperforms AMD but when it comes down to it you always without exception skimp on some part and in this case the mobo to make it fit the same price range. That already proves something. You mention his R7k budget but when it came down to it the guys here had a tough time trying to fit a better performing Intel rig into that and still weren't able to manage it. I think things are as clear as they've always been. I don't have to provide a better performing AMD rig as you are doing it all on your own.
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Well if we speak in terms of retail pricing, the i3 4th already hammers the FX6300 in gaming most of the time due to AMD's poor single threaded performance.

The FX6300 literally needs to be OC'ed not to lose against the 2 cores of the i3.

The FX series is running on old technology.

But due to the availability of OEM tray CPUs, we tend to just skip right to the i5.
 
Swa said:
Ponder, the issue is how we always hear from you guys how Intel outperforms AMD but when it comes down to it you always without exception skimp on some part and in this case the mobo to make it fit the same price range. That already proves something. You mention his R7k budget but when it came down to it the guys here had a tough time trying to fit a better performing Intel rig into that and still weren't able to manage it. I think things are as clear as they've always been. I don't have to provide a better performing AMD rig as you are doing it all on your own.
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I'm gonna say it again, the MB does not influence the performance of the PC. With AMD you unfortunately have to get that R1.4k mobo with 6 or 8 phase power setup & vrm heatsinks in order to get a decent OC, if you could do this with a R600 MB it would be great in all honesty.
 
I have done some more research and found that i could get a core i3 4370 which is better when playing games than the fx 6300 and the entire system will work out cheaper.
The parts are:
CPU: Intel Core i3 4370 R2000
RAM:Adata 8Gb 1600mhz R900
MOBO:MSI H81-P33 R650
PSU:Corsair vs 450W R550
GPU:nVidia GTX 960 R3000
Total R7100

Only problem with the i3 is that it is not that great for video editing, which i do occasionally.
What do you guys think?
 
NathanKNel said:
Only problem with the i3 is that it is not that great for video editing, which i do occasionally.
What do you guys think?
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I'm gonna suggest looking at Carbonite to see if potterh has any i5 tray cpu's for sale. they are new and have warranty. he had some i7 4790 cpus the other day for R2.2k so i5s will be even cheaper. You'll have to get a cooler though but a stock cheapo intel one will do as they only have a 84W tdp. Or you could just get an i7 for R2.2k :D
 
ponder said:
I'm gonna say it again, the MB does not influence the performance of the PC. With AMD you unfortunately have to get that R1.4k mobo with 6 or 8 phase power setup & vrm heatsinks in order to get a decent OC, if you could do this with a R600 MB it would be great in all honesty.
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Still doesn't change the fact. Intel system with the same features as AMD costs more. With your Intel build you unfortunately had to go for a cheaper mobo to make it financially viable. But the Intel boys will never get this basic logic.
 
Swa said:
Still doesn't change the fact. Intel system with the same features as AMD costs more. With your Intel build you unfortunately had to go for a cheaper mobo to make it financially viable. But the Intel boys will never get this basic logic.
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Leave them (ignore them) with their skew dreams, suggestions, believes and false sense of superiority and let us bask in the light that is AMD.
 
beans100 said:
Leave them (ignore them) with their skew dreams, suggestions, believes and false sense of superiority and let us bask in the light that is AMD.
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+1
Let's all rejoice in Zen.
 
Swa said:
Still doesn't change the fact. Intel system with the same features as AMD costs more. With your Intel build you unfortunately had to go for a cheaper mobo to make it financially viable. But the Intel boys will never get this basic logic.
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Still does'nt change what fact? You're posts are always the same whatever the topic.

Please tell me htf an expensive MB enhances the performance of a PC? Calling me an Intel fanboy is simply BS, I'm not a brand bunny. I've had more AMD rigs in my life than most people. I'm only on my second Intel rig since the early 90's!

But then again you're one of those people that will call white black and black white.

Provide your AMD build that's gonna trump an Intel build for ~R7k, you keep on avoiding the question as you always do all over the forum. Stand behind what you say and have some credibility for once in your life. But you'll probably once again deflect the question and spew more crap never actually contributing anything as that is who you are.
 
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Perhaps it's just your "logic" that's always the same whatever the topic. Provide that Intel build with all the features as an AMD build for less. You keep on avoiding to do that.
 
Swa said:
Perhaps it's just your "logic" that's always the same whatever the topic. Provide that Intel build with all the features as an AMD build for less. You keep on avoiding to do that.
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The OP asked for assistancwe on an AMD build so help him in the right direction wrt his AMD build instead of fscking arguing with me. Give him the best bang for buck for his R7k. Really that's all this thread is about. Ignore me and help him.
 
ponder said:
The OP asked for assistancwe on an AMD build so help him in the right direction wrt his AMD build instead of fscking arguing with me. Give him the best bang for buck for his R7k. Really that's all this thread is about. Ignore me and help him.
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Oh so now it's help him instead of arguing with the person who brought up this Intel is better than AMD crap. Way to go. Follow your own advice.
 
Swa said:
Oh so now it's help him instead of arguing with the person who brought up this Intel is better than AMD crap. Way to go. Follow your own advice.
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I provided the OP with some alternate options & prices. You've done fsckall of the sorts, instead just having a go at me without actually providing any concrete input whatsoever, no pricing, no links, no nothing.
 
I have a AMD 1090T CPU and I've never felt the need to overclock it. Ever.


What's up with using overclocking as a positive?
 
@Ponder. Well, the OP has now gone with an i3 that's over his budget. And he isn't even sure it will perform satisfactorily. I sincerely hope it works out for him. I gave input in this thread. I didn't give any input into increasing performance as it's not practically possible at the price. You gave input yes, but as shown not without going over the budget or skimping on features. Whatever floats your boat though.
 
Kwaai said:
How would this build change with a bigger budget of 10-11k?
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Change the GPU to the Galax 97NQH6DNB4TX GeForce GTX 970 EXOC http://www.wootware.co.za/galax-97n...it-pci-express-3-0-desktop-graphics-card.html

This is gonna up the price by R2k


ScottulusMaximus said:
Get a 970 and an SSD
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Unfortunately you will not be able to get both into that budget unless you maybe find some great bargain on Carbonite.


Kwaai said:
Thanks :). Would anyone recommend a different motherboard? Or leave that as is?
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Do you need front USB3 ports, more SATA ports etc? Here's a better board for about R200 more http://www.takealot.com/msi-h81m-e35-intel-motherboard-socket-1150/PLID32848981

PS Just double check those prices you quoted from, that post is a month old and prices might have changed a bit.
 
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