AMD Phenom B3 Stepping Release

What are its stats? I've seen nothing to suggest that AMD will be worthwhile over Intel.
 
Actually that's a good question, at what price are C2Ds worthwhile changing from an AM2 given the motherboard change?
 
milomak said:
Actually that's a good question, at what price are C2Ds worthwhile changing from an AM2 given the motherboard change?
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You mean at which price should you just sell your AM2 and buy a Intel? I think personally anything above the Q6600 most probably, because if you are spending that much you obviously have cash to splash and CPU performance is important to you.

Depends on what these CPU's sell for, if they are cheap, well CPU performance isn't always that important.
 
Well what happens:

1. Sell AMD motherboard
2. Sell AMD Chip
3. Buy Intel based motherboard
4. Buy Intel Chip

If selling is positive, then you would want this all to be positive. But in reality, you want it to be as small as negative as possible given what your are selling is outdated. In fact you have to ask yourself whether you should be asking for anything.
 
killadoob said:
amd's new cpu will be released this month

once again their flagship product struggles to keep up with intel's quadcores q 6600

check out www.guru3d.com for a review
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How does your post answer the thread's question? Definately way off topic :\ We all know the difference between AMD and Intel.

The first person who will probably be able to organise a B3 stepping AMD Phenom is Andy from http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/
 
ok so tell me something your going to buy a 3k cpu without knowning how it performs?

must be a fun buying pc parts without knowing how they perform :)

i also stated it will be released this month sometime

how is that not answering the question

i personally believe reviews are a great thing even if your an avid amd supporter because i have seen many amd supporters turned away from amd after seeing the poor performance and the bug that plaqued the last phenom reviews

i suppose buying blindly is something you do :)
 
yeah i would think a review of the aforementioned chip would actually be a good thing.
 
You are making some wild assumptions as per usual :p

I am an XtremeSystems.org member and know EXACTLY what I am talking about ;) I happen to own an E6550 which I have overclocked very well thanks. Running at 2.8ghz at 1.15V using 2GB of Kingston Value Ram with timings of 4-4-4-12.

We all use this forum, we ALL know the performance gap btw AMD and Intel.
 
dude i have never seen terminator post in this forum so i assumed he is new and maybe didnt know

The B3 revision of Phenom finally leaves the TBL bug behind it, performance was definitely faster in many segments, and the Phenom 9850 as tested today is pretty much on par with the Intel Q6600 at many fronts, though not pre-dominantly.

Fact remains however that AMD's flagship product still needs to be sought in the mainstream market. And fair enough, AMD adopted the pricing strategy to that as the Phenom X4 9850 can be purchased at the $235 price point. And that's just not bad. Once we started overclocking the processor, we noticed that instantly we had a processor that could keep up with Intel's offering much better.

Once AMD manages to yield the processors at 3 GHz, things will definitely look even better as we then reach the enthusiast gaming audience. I think many of you have been waiting for this much needed B3 revision of Phenom. With the coming of B3 AMD finally is getting things under control and from here onwards, their processor segment can only go upwards again.

AMD CPUs as offered today will be popular as a processor for economical multi-threaded systems. My prognosis really sums it up like this, it's an excellent processor for inexpensive computers for gaming, rendering and media processing tasks.

Whether or not AMD can ramp up the clock speed this year and make sure 45nm is on time remains a question. They do benefit from the fact that Intel has fallen behind in regards to their release of 45nm processors. But with Intel's Nehalem in sight, they should worry & hurry.

For now though in the present the Phenom is a more than capable processor and resolves a very unfortunate bug with a few extra perks as well for a really great price. For gamers, HTPC builders, en generic PC users that can't spend more than 235 USD on a quad-core processor, it's actually very recommended.

And you know what ? It is likely the cheapest quad-core processor you can find on the market, that's a lot of value & with this new B3 revision, a perfectly safe & stable product.

Thanks to AMD for providing this processor.

You can pick up the AMD Phenom 9850 BE for 235 USD right here.

there you have it

now if you think that the q9450 is cooler uses less power and faster than the q6600 it might make some ppl want an intel more than an amd

all i said was amd's flagship product meaning their fastest cpu only just managed to keep up with the intel

now they mentioned overclocking the amd bring it to near the performance of the q6600 what they forget to mention is what happens when u overclock the q6600 to 3.6ghz on water or 3.2ghz on air

so i think its only fair to give the new oke a review for him to decide for himself instead of being a hardcore amd fan saying only buy amd because intel suck which they dont
 
just read that entire thread

it scores nearly 500 points lower than a 3.2ghz intel quadcore

shame amd just cannot find a decent to compete with an intel :(
 
i always find it strange how reviews mention that when you oc a particular cpu it matches another cpu running at stock speed. they should also mention that if you oc the reference board, it will run at a particular speed.
 
killadoob said:
shame amd just cannot find a decent (part) to compete with an intel :(
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They compete in the mainstream/midrange segment, with price. They have said recently thet they can't go after the high-end atm, it doesn't mean that they can't compete at all.

The $250 range is where most of the sales come from anyway, and that is around where they are competing on price with Intel.

So if you want to speed over +/- R2600 on a CPU then Intel would be a better choice, but AMD aren't doing too badly below that.
 
yea but ekhaat amd cpu's are not that much cheaper than their intel counterparts

on my pricelist if you check the cpu pricing intel has a cpu priced at better or around the same pricing as amd

whether this is suppliers or amd themselves im not sure
 
milomak said:
If selling is positive, then you would want this all to be positive. But in reality, you want it to be as small as negative as possible given what your are selling is outdated. In fact you have to ask yourself whether you should be asking for anything.
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What? Sorry I don't really understand what you're trying to say...

killadoob said:
yea but ekhaat amd cpu's are not that much cheaper than their intel counterparts

on my pricelist if you check the cpu pricing intel has a cpu priced at better or around the same pricing as amd

whether this is suppliers or amd themselves im not sure
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Yes but if you're already running on AMD then this is good news because you can keep running on AMD. And in any case, launch prices are always high, eventually the price will go down, then perhaps it's another story, and it could bring down the prices of the Q6600. Never a bad thing.
 
yea but when am2 came out if you want a new amd you needed a new board

im sure if amd went 45nm which might next century then you would need to replace your mobo as well
 
killadoob said:
yea but when am2 came out if you want a new amd you needed a new board
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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make... AM2 motherboards are widely used and Phenom CPU's can run on AM2 motherboards.

killadoob said:
im sure if amd went 45nm which might next century then you would need to replace your mobo as well
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Possible, time will tell, process alone doesn't warrant a socket/MB change, Intel just like releasing a new motherboard every time they drop the process. But quite a few AMD's in history have made process switch without a socket change. Phenom being one of them.
 
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