AMD's next-generation CPUs could destroy Intel

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AMD's next-generation CPUs could destroy Intel

AMD has historically performed poorly against Intel in the desktop CPU market - up until the launch of its Zen architecture in 2017.

With its Ryzen chips, AMD became more competitive and regained consideration from gamers, enthusiasts, and everyday PC users.
 
Destroy. Intel will be no more. Because of the release of a competitor processor. Because they are on the brink as it is. This single release could be the forest that breaks the camel's back. Because they have no other sources of revenue. Because they're just a startup.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Destroy. Intel will be no more. Because of the release of a competitor processor. Because they are on the brink as it is. This single release could be the forest that breaks the camel's back. Because they have no other sources of revenue. Because they're just a startup.
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AMD know it, Intel has Intel Inside.
 
AMD must actually be wary, though they have had great success at targeting the market in the low to mid-range. Intel can still close that gap in 2020/21 and Intel’s GPU may even come in better than Navi which will be a sucker punch. We are closing in on the time Intel said that they had new things to come, and I hope that AMD is prepared. It is not like they are going to beat NVidia in the next year or two.

I like AMD. It is only that they are also playing the Good Guy game.
 
Very excited about new Zen. Love my current Zen 1700x and it seems new Zen will be socket compatible meaning an upgrade for me is on the way!!!

I do feel articles need to put a little star next to node sizes because unfortunately marketing has made them meaningless and incompareable. TSCM 7nm is closer to Intels 10nm.
 
Zen with NVIDIA, hmm.... Wonder how those two will run together...
 
Marketing department in action again. Is that same company been paid to run the benchmarks again? :p
 
AMD has historically performed poorly against Intel in the desktop CPU market – up until the launch of its Zen architecture in 2017.
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Forgetting some history there, hey?
 
Fulcrum29 said:
AMD must actually be wary, though they have had great success at targeting the market in the low to mid-range. Intel can still close that gap in 2020/21 and Intel’s GPU may even come in better than Navi which will be a sucker punch. We are closing in on the time Intel said that they had new things to come, and I hope that AMD is prepared. It is not like they are going to beat NVidia in the next year or two.

I like AMD. It is only that they are also playing the Good Guy game.
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I doubt first gen Intel discrete will be competitive in performance, maybe in price.
What would be quite interesting is if they can develop a solution whereby you'd need both an Intel CPU and GPU.

@OP AMD has not historically performed poorly, they performed poorly post 2006.
 
Johnatan56 said:
I doubt first gen Intel discrete will be competitive in performance, maybe in price.
What would be quite interesting is if they can develop a solution whereby you'd need both an Intel CPU and GPU.

@OP AMD has not historically performed poorly, they performed poorly post 2006.
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Rumours are indicative that Intel is aiming at the RTX 2070, like AMD is aiming with Navi as per the leaks published by AdoredTV (Jim).

Mr. Koduri seems to be happy at Intel. There was a recent interview with him where he elaborated on Intel’s progress and AI, also recruiting AMD and Apple colleagues that he used to work with at AMD and Apple. Their team is around 4500 strong. He did, however, state that they will enter into discrete graphics in 2020 which goes against the rumour that they may launch in 2019, but maybe they will announce it sooner than later.

They also teased this, yesterday:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1105223183727280129

Upgrading the aged control panel is indicative that they want to achieve an enhanced experience, and they are also patching and updating their Linux drivers. Though this is applicable to their integrated graphics now, this is a readiness campaign. It is their Odyssey event next week I believe at GDC, so maybe they may tease a prototype as to what is to be expected in 2020.

Intel's approach to launching a discreet graphics solutions are to bring their community aboard, known as The Odyssey. This is wise, people may participate in the development.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Destroy. Intel will be no more. Because of the release of a competitor processor. Because they are on the brink as it is. This single release could be the forest that breaks the camel's back. Because they have no other sources of revenue. Because they're just a startup.
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:unsure:
 
I will chose AMD as now they are Spectre/Meltdown free. Intel CPU's are not (not all), even the latest crop. New ways to use these backdors are discovered, it requires constant workaround patches and system becomes less stable or slower after applying patches. So chosing Spectre/Meltdown free CPU for a new PC is a priority.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Rumours are indicative that Intel is aiming at the RTX 2070, like AMD is aiming with Navi as per the leaks published by AdoredTV (Jim).

Mr. Koduri seems to be happy at Intel. There was a recent interview with him where he elaborated on Intel’s progress and AI, also recruiting AMD and Apple colleagues that he used to work with at AMD and Apple. Their team is around 4500 strong. He did, however, state that they will enter into discrete graphics in 2020 which goes against the rumour that they may launch in 2019, but maybe they will announce it sooner than later.

They also teased this, yesterday:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1105223183727280129

Upgrading the aged control panel is indicative that they want to achieve an enhanced experience, and they are also patching and updating their Linux drivers. Though this is applicable to their integrated graphics now, this is a readiness campaign. It is their Odyssey event next week I believe at GDC, so maybe they may tease a prototype as to what is to be expected in 2020.

Intel's approach to launching a discreet graphics solutions are to bring their community aboard, known as The Odyssey. This is wise, people may participate in the development.
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Let's be honest here, Intel are terrible at graphics and everyone knows it. A lousy control panel update doesnt mean anything. Whatever they release will only be suitable for the casual gamer already running onboard graphics.
They will need atleast 2 revisions before anyone will take them seriously.
 
quovadis said:
As with all attempts in the past Intel will either adjust their pricing or release something with more performance.
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They currently have 14nm shortages and their 10nm fab process is behind their competitors' 7nm/8nm. These shortages have become double digit now to OEMs and with Ryzen being released on 7nm, it could provide another interesting turn of events.
 
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