American doing what they do best:

[Sneeky]

I wounder if burning the Russian flag is allowed over at Putinstan

Because a person does not agree with Bush's American foreign policy one is aligned with communism? Very intelligent, rofl

 

[fay]

Notice nothing about Al Qaeda being uninvited. [/QUOTE]


Even blonde know Iraq got nothing to do with Al Qaeda or 9/11.
They came in Iraq after so called war on Iraq.
You need to open your other Eye as well.

 

[Alan]

Because a person does not agree with Bush's American foreign policy one is aligned with communism? Very intelligent, rofl

Honestly here we go with Bush/Hitler syndrome. It's just as much Blair( now Brown) policy.

As for cummunism. I have no know idea where you got that from .

Even blonde know Iraq got nothing to do with Al Qaeda or 9/11.
They came in Iraq after so called war on Iraq.
You need to open your other Eye as well.

I'm talking about now.

and you need to get back on your meds

 

[w1z4rd]

Hey StrongTurd... got any free time to respond yet?

 

[Valis]

... It's in the U.S best interests to have democracy in other countries.

No it isn't. It's in their best interests to have right-wing dictatorships that bow down to US policy.

 

[Valis]

...It still occupies 50 countries worldwide...

the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries http://hnn.us/articles/3097.html

...the Pentagon practically demands other countries allow us the right to put our troops on choice parts of their real estate around the world. That's real heavy-handed imperial arrogance mindful of an earlier time when imperialism could be measured by an empire's colony count. Military outposts are our version set up to operate by our own rules when we show up. Locals have no say and neither does the host country once a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) is finalized that gives the US "guest" freedom from host country laws and restraints governing civilian life and exemption from any inconvenient environmental cleanup obligations.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/16/181413/824

 

[Amerikanse]

the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries http://hnn.us/articles/3097.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/16/181413/824

Does this include Embassies, which are technically US soil?

 

[Valis]

Does this include Embassies, which are technically US soil?

No. Military bases only.

"Military" as in soldiers with guns and bombs they use to kill people.

 

[Alan]

No it isn't. It's in their best interests to have right-wing dictatorships that bow down to US policy.

Yeah we all know Europe is a bastion of rightwing dictatorships

 

[Valis]

Yeah we all know Eurpoe is a bastion of rightwing dictatorships

Who said anything about "Eurpoe"?

 

[Beta]

Sorry alan85, can't say I've heard of Eurpoe either.

 

[Alan]

Who said anything about "Eurpoe"?

Oh I'm sorry I thought you said It's in their best interests to have right-wing dictatorships that bow down to US policy..

Wait you did so why didn't they set up European countries as right-wing dictatorships?

 

[Valis]

Oh I'm sorry I thought you said It's in their best interests to have right-wing dictatorships that bow down to US policy..

Wait you did so why didn't they set up European countries as right-wing dictatorships?

Sorry, some misunderstanding here, wasn't referring to developed (European) countries. Everyone else has always been fair game for the Americans though.

 

[Valis]

I also strongly urge you to go research PNAC (Project for the New American Century), the neocon's blueprint to control the globe through American military might.

 

[Alan]

*sigh*

We seem to be getting off topic here.

Getting back on track.....

General Petraeus: man with a message of hope

The critics said it couldn't be done, but the vision and determination of General David Petraeus have brought greater security and cause for optimism to the people of Iraq. He is The Sunday Telegraph's Person of the Year

For a man whose critics say he is far too fond of the television cameras, General David Petraeus, commander of US forces in Iraq, has been rather out of the limelight this Christmas.

The sprightly, media-friendly 55-year-old is not perturbed, however, that his face is no longer number one item on the US networks. As he said last week, where Iraq is concerned, "No news is good news."

Top of the class of 1974 at West Point Military Academy and the holder of a PhD in international relations, he is the co author of the US military's manual on counter-insurgency, a "warrior monk" for whom the messy intrigues of asymmetric warfare hold more interest than the straightforward challenges of 2003's invasion

When the White House called, confirming him for the job, President Bush was looking not just for an outstanding leader but also a diplomat, a politician and a negotiator. It seems he got them all.

Several Northern Ireland veterans who worked with him in Baghdad this year came away with the opinion that it is now America, not Britain, that is the world leader in counter-insurgency.

But it should not overshadow his achievement this year: he has given another last chance to a country that had long since ceased to expect one. And for that, Gen Petraeus is Person of the Year.

 

[Amerikanse]

I also strongly urge you to go research PNAC (Project for the New American Century), the neocon's blueprint to control the globe through American military might.

I never enjoy pointing out glaring inconsistencies, but...

1. The "neocons" have only been in power for 7 years.

2. They are about to lose power.

And those only if you believe GW is a Neocon. I suppose Reagan might qualify as a Neocon but that's a stretch.

 

[StrongTurd]

the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries

Thanks for that, Valis. That's my point exactly. The fact of the matter is that, once the USA conquers a country, they never leave again. Germany and Japan have both been occupied since 1945 even though both now boast some of the most stable democracies in the world and both have got no agressive intentions against anybody. Still the US maintains massive troop counts in tose countries. The only single case where they ever left was when they got beaten, namely in Vietnam.

The thing that the USA does best is building an empire. The colonial era is supposed to be long gone yet the USA boasts a bigger "empire" than Brittain ever had. I also read that the US military have now established an "Africa Command" that will most likely be based in Botswana. Now, maybe you can argue that it will have a positive effect on Botswana's economy. I would have to agree with you. The problem is that these bastards will never ever leave again and this is just another step in their quest for complete global military dominance.

Consider for a moment this scenario: Suppose South Africa would tell the USA: Hey listen, your country is our primary market for our platinum so would it be ok if we set up our own military base in Texas to protect our interests? Well, that's exactly what they are doing.

 

[w1z4rd]

South Africa has bases in several countries as well. You cant seriously base your discrimination on that?

 

[w1z4rd]

the Pentagon currently owns or rents 702 overseas bases in about 130 countries http://hnn.us/articles/3097.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/3/16/181413/824

Im trying to find a list, that lists the countries and bases in full. Perhaps your research could point me in that direction. Your links only list a handful of countries.

 

[StrongTurd]

South Africa has bases in several countries as well. You cant seriously base your discrimination on that?

I can't think of one, apart from where we are employed as peacekeepers at the request of other governments. This is a way different situation.