ANC: Kick Maynier out

semiautomatix

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An ANC MP on Wednesday called for the Democratic Alliance's David Maynier to be removed from Parliament's portfolio committee on defence over his allegations that South Africa is selling arms to so-called rogue states.

http://www.news24.com/Content/South...c19ffca/12-08-2009 10-08/ANC_Kick_Maynier_out

Once again the majority of (the ANC led) Parliament doesn't keep their eye on the ball. Instead of calling for investigations into whether the allegations are true they would rather attempt to persecute the source of this information.

Is it not more important to understand why weaponry is being sold to rogue nations (as members of the UN we bound to uphold their decisions)? Regardless of what happens it does seem that suddenly South Africa may be more closely monitored, especially regarding this country's relationship with the aforementioned nations.

To top it off, we're selling arms to Zimbabwe - which they're paying for with the millions South Africa gave them!

Ironically it seems that a motion the ANC insisted on to grant their MPs immunity has come back to bite them in the ass since the same immunity, that being principle of parliamentary privilege, would seem to apply to the DA's Maynier.

Just my 2c worth regarding how the ANC and the Nats could well have been best buddies under different circumstances.
 

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good luck DA ....... good luck

you have to fight until all evils have been demolished ............
otherwise keep fighting............
 

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They (anc) cannot have it investigated 'cause they were the one selling the arms.:D
 

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http://www.news24.com/Content/South...c19ffca/12-08-2009 10-08/ANC_Kick_Maynier_out

Once again the majority of (the ANC led) Parliament doesn't keep their eye on the ball. Instead of calling for investigations into whether the allegations are true they would rather attempt to persecute the source of this information.

Is it not more important to understand why weaponry is being sold to rogue nations (as members of the UN we bound to uphold their decisions)? Regardless of what happens it does seem that suddenly South Africa may be more closely monitored, especially regarding this country's relationship with the aforementioned nations.

To top it off, we're selling arms to Zimbabwe - which they're paying for with the millions South Africa gave them!

Ironically it seems that a motion the ANC insisted on to grant their MPs immunity has come back to bite them in the ass since the same immunity, that being principle of parliamentary privilege, would seem to apply to the DA's Maynier.

Just my 2c worth regarding how the ANC and the Nats could well have been best buddies under different circumstances.

+1

I agree with you entirely.
 

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Sounds like Zumatello all over again. Everyone knows he is guilty but they'll deflect attention away from the actual wrong doing. Same with this - the proof is there (or so it seems) and the ANC is going to extreme lengths to avoid the facts.
 

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Morals. Scruples. Integrity. Dignity.

Not to be found in the ANC dictionary!
 

Albereth

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Another thought - doesn't parliament have a constitutional obligation to uphold the laws, the constitution, and the actions of government and its organs?

And if it doesn't do that can we have them all kicked out?
 

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Another thought - doesn't parliament have a constitutional obligation to uphold the laws, the constitution, and the actions of government and its organs?

And if it doesn't do that can we have them all kicked out?

Not until the next election since we don't directly elect MPs :/
 

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Was he leaking sensitive information that could harm the country or not?
 

DreamKing

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Was he leaking sensitive information that could harm the country or not?

yeah .......

DA told the whole world: what is anc government's "doggy arms deals", no "dodgy arms deals".

sensitive information ................................. ;)
 

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What was yours?

Simply, that shooting the messenger for whatever reason is silly.

You're shooting the messenger because you want to be devil's advocate. ANC is shooting the messenger because they're ****-scared of their own shadows.

Point remains at the end of the day: we sold arms to people we really, *really* shouldn't have. And this won't go away.

It'll be swept under the carpet ... but it won't go away.
 

semiautomatix

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Simply, that shooting the messenger for whatever reason is silly.

You're shooting the messenger because you want to be devil's advocate. ANC is shooting the messenger because they're ****-scared of their own shadows.

Point remains at the end of the day: we sold arms to people we really, *really* shouldn't have. And this won't go away.

It'll be swept under the carpet ... but it won't go away.

Yeah, this information may harm the country's international image; but selling weapons to rogue nations and lying about it to the whole world is not something that should be swept under the rug. There's a decision where revealing this sort of thing is in the interests of the nation not in the interests of the few ANC party leader who rule this country.

This country was gonna get caught out sooner or later. Rather internal politics reveals this than some CIA report in 6 month's time completely destroying any relationship we had with the USA.
 
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