ANCYL trashes toilets

Fudzy said:
From what I've heard it's the opposite, do you think they just won the province with the just the votes of the rich folk along the beach?
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I'll admit that I don't know. Could be interesting though, so you're welcome to post some numbers.
 
phaktza said:
As opposed to any other governing party in this country besides the DA. You're now arguing the wrong point, and blindly missing the obvious.
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I know you hate the ANC. I do too for the most part. I'm sure the residents know that the ANC is squandering money that is meant for them, my guess to why as I mentioned earlier was that they may feel they're fuscked either way so prefer voting for a party that claims to have their interests at heart.
 
phaktza said:
Do you honestly believe that? Do you not see that its a few elite and middle class black folk who are benefiting whilst the majority remains in poverty. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Your thinking has done little to nothing for the poor.
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Yes I do. My thinking has given more people than ever before a voice, human rights and basic services. I never said the majority were not still in poverty I said the majority have a better life. I'm sure if the DA was in control they would implement my thinking better which would lead to an even better life.

Imagine if in 1994 the ANC just said to their people what you guys think about life and how the poor should live. That they must just work harder and the injustices of the past would be balanced out. That a good life will not fall in their laps. No housing, services, education, BEE or AA to help them. Ha ha... They'd all still be maids, gardeners and manual labourers.
 
capd said:
Why?
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Because the ANC led city, province and country appears to be incapable of maintaining roads or the water system in this country.

The irony is that you'd be paying the guavamints in other countries more than here, even though you have to look after alot more people here.
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And you know what? I'd be quite happy to pay a lot more because I'd actually get some benefits from my tax money such as free schooling or medical. Instead I have no water, nor drivable road for my efforts. Here my money just goes into a black corrupt hole.
 
BBSA said:
Exactly, we are now a more unequal society than in 1994.
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Crap!

People need to learn that they must take responsibility for their own lives. A nanny state is not going to help anybody, especially the poor.
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Yes it will. When implemented correctly. It is more than just the fact that they are poor.
 
capd said:
I know you hate the ANC. I do too for the most part. I'm sure the residents know that the ANC is squandering money that is meant for them, my guess to why as I mentioned earlier was that they may feel they're fuscked either way so prefer voting for a party that claims to have their interests at heart.
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Did they get toilets from the ANC after 12 years? No. Did they get toilets from the DA after 2 years? Yes. This mere fact alone is enough to indicate to you which party has their interests at heart. Unfortunately a few trouble makers would like to detract from that.
 
fskmh said:
The stats don't seem to favour your remark:



It has declined "between-race", which shouldn't come as a surprise, but it has it has increased "within-race".
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Actually they do. And I did not deny that it has increased within-race.

Now you're just perpetuating the same lies as the ANCYL. Still waiting for your response here BTW:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...se-Cape-Town&p=4009619&viewfull=1#post4009619
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So they are lies. And not real opinions from the poor...

I did respond ?
 
capd said:
Crap!
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Read this before you call crap:

The distribution of wealth in South Africa is now more unequal than what it was a decade ago, the SA Institute of Race Relations said.

"[It] may be an unintended consequence of the country's black economic empowerment and employment equity policies," SAIRR researcher Kerwin Lebone said.

This is according to the so-called Gini measure, which has increased over the past decade from 0.64 and 0.66 in South Africa.

The Gini scale measures the level of wealth distribution. Zero represents perfect equality, while a score of one represents perfect inequality.

Most developed countries have scores of between 0.20 and 0.40.

In South Africa, most racial groups saw their Gini scores increase over the past 10 years, meaning that the distribution of wealth has become more unequal.

"Among whites, however, the Gini co-efficient decreased from 0.50 in 1998 to 0.46 in 2008," said Lebone, quoting from data published in the latest South Africa Survey.

The Gini increased among Africans by seven percent, and among Indians and coloureds by nearly four percent. The Gini was above 0.6 in all provinces in South Africa, with the gap between the richest and poorest being the widest in KwaZulu-Natal and Mpumalanga and the lowest in the Western Cape.
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capd said:
Yes I do. My thinking has given more people than ever before a voice, human rights and basic services. I never said the majority were not still in poverty I said the majority have a better life. I'm sure if the DA was in control they would implement my thinking better which would lead to an even better life.

Imagine if in 1994 the ANC just said to their people what you guys think about life and how the poor should live. That they must just work harder and the injustices of the past would be balanced out. That a good life will not fall in their laps. No housing, services, education, BEE or AA to help them. Ha ha... They'd all still be maids, gardeners and manual labourers.
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Imperial evidence would prove otherwise. The gap between the have and have nots has remained steadily level since 1994. It seems the ANC promised them the land of milk and honey and all they've received from their unwavering support during the struggle is sorghum and pap.

What you fail to realise is that by increasing unemployment we help them help themselves. Something that only the DA has actually achieved in the last two years or so. Only a few benefit from this system you talk about, while the rest are still doomed. So there is just as many poor maids, gardeners and manual labourers amongst these people as there ever has been. So what's changed I ask you?
 
capd said:
You are being racist. You could have said what you said without the use of white man, and it would have made sense, except I think they are a lot more realistic than wanting mansions and being fed grapes. Wanting mansions and being fed grapes is something that most human beings want.
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It is what most civilized human beings WORK towards, but the ANC scumbags and their kid gang of thugs ANCYL WANT and demand without WORKING for these luxuries.
 
The concept of entitlement has got so out of hand that if they are provided with free concrete toilets the next thing will be demanding free concrete houses.

Then free electricity, free transport to free hospitals, free dstv and free clothing and education for the 6 children they had while enjoying free sex.

Do you think for a moment that had those zinc walls around the toilets been paid for by the residents that those ancyl thugs would still be alive ?
 
phaktza said:
Because the ANC led city, province and country appears to be incapable of maintaining roads or the water system in this country.

And you know what? I'd be quite happy to pay a lot more because I'd actually get some benefits from my tax money such as free schooling or medical. Instead I have no water, nor drivable road for my efforts. Here my money just goes into a black corrupt hole.
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Unlucky. Not sure where you are but what are the circumstances and what have you done about it?
 
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phaktza said:
Only a few benefit from this system you talk about, while the rest are still doomed. So there is just as many poor maids, gardeners and manual labourers amongst these people as there ever has been. So what's changed I ask you?
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Due to its poor implementation. There may be just as many poor maids, gardeners and manual labourers (especially true with the rate at which the poor reproduce), but they mostly have better housing, water and electricity and access to other services, better trransport, access to hospitals, ARVs, etc.
 
Frankie said:
It is what most civilized human beings WORK towards, but the ANC scumbags and their kid gang of thugs ANCYL WANT and demand without WORKING for these luxuries.
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Because it would have been easier for them to become civilized and afford these "luxuries" liek a concrete toilet if they were given the opportunity longer ago.
 
BBSA said:
Now it will not. Give a man a fish; you have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime.
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And more people now have the opportunity to be taught how to fish than ever before.

Previously they were not allowed to be taught how to fish.
 
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