Android "upgrade" removes features? What am I missing?

frankvw

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I hate replacing things before they break or wear out and my requirements are modest, so I use my hardware long after it has become obsolete. Until last week I had and used a Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini with Android 4.1.2. I was forced to replace it because it got to a point where the flash memory wore out and after every write cycle it had less RAM available. Now I've got a Samsung Galaxy A03 Core with Android 11 (patch level 1 July 2022).

Much to my dismay, I'm missing a lot of functionality and productivity in Android 11 that came standard on Android 4. For example:
  • There seems to be no simple app to make notes on the phone (something I use frequently);
  • I can't seem to block phone numbers starting with +2787 or 087;
  • I can't seem to block SMSes containing a certain string;
  • There are two "messages" apps (one Samsung, one Android, apparently with exactly the same functionality) but neither will show the number of unread SMSes on the desktop (unlike the Facebook and Whatsapp icons, or the messages app on my old phone);
  • The "do not disturb" function no longer can be scheduled to allow only white-listed numbers after hours;
  • I cannot assign individual ringtones to contacts (see below);
  • There's no media player app (I can play an MP3 file by tapping it in the file manager though).
There's more, but these are the big issues.

Regarding the individual ringtones, I've followed all instructions that I can find online (Contacts -> Select contact -> (i) ->Edit -> scroll down -> view more -> expand everything) but the option just isn't there. I've tried to assign every possible permission to the Contacts and phone apps to the point where I've probably created a major privacy and security hole, but nothing works; there's no option listed to assign individual ringtones.

And who thought it was a good idea to completely separate the phone and contacts apps? In my old phone I had a "contact" button in the phone app (where you want it) but now I must either run the phone app to punch in a phone number or run the contacts app to call a saved number. How clumsy is that?

Yes, I could probably get around most of the above by finding, downloading and installing third party apps (and either pay for them or live with tons of advertising) but these are basic features that came standard with my old phone and Android 4. Why are they missing from my new phone with Android 11? If anything the newer version has less functionality and offers less productivity than the old version!

What am I missing here?

// FvW
 
I hate replacing things before they break or wear out and my requirements are modest, so I use my hardware long after it has become obsolete. Until last week I had and used a Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini with Android 4.1.2. I was forced to replace it because it got to a point where the flash memory wore out and after every write cycle it had less RAM available. Now I've got a Samsung Galaxy A03 Core with Android 11 (patch level 1 July 2022).

Much to my dismay, I'm missing a lot of functionality and productivity in Android 11 that came standard on Android 4. For example:
  • There seems to be no simple app to make notes on the phone (something I use frequently);
  • I can't seem to block phone numbers starting with +2787 or 087;
  • I can't seem to block SMSes containing a certain string;
  • There are two "messages" apps (one Samsung, one Android, apparently with exactly the same functionality) but neither will show the number of unread SMSes on the desktop (unlike the Facebook and Whatsapp icons, or the messages app on my old phone);
  • The "do not disturb" function no longer can be scheduled to allow only white-listed numbers after hours;
  • I cannot assign individual ringtones to contacts (see below);
  • There's no media player app (I can play an MP3 file by tapping it in the file manager though).
There's more, but these are the big issues.

Regarding the individual ringtones, I've followed all instructions that I can find online (Contacts -> Select contact -> (i) ->Edit -> scroll down -> view more -> expand everything) but the option just isn't there. I've tried to assign every possible permission to the Contacts and phone apps to the point where I've probably created a major privacy and security hole, but nothing works; there's no option listed to assign individual ringtones.

And who thought it was a good idea to completely separate the phone and contacts apps? In my old phone I had a "contact" button in the phone app (where you want it) but now I must either run the phone app to punch in a phone number or run the contacts app to call a saved number. How clumsy is that?

Yes, I could probably get around most of the above by finding, downloading and installing third party apps (and either pay for them or live with tons of advertising) but these are basic features that came standard with my old phone and Android 4. Why are they missing from my new phone with Android 11? If anything the newer version has less functionality and offers less productivity than the old version!

What am I missing here?

// FvW
there are many additional settings that are hidden .go into settings and search keywords .most of your questions are basic things .unless you got a really funky version thats tweaked
 
Go edition phone, many android features dont exist, because of the low RAM capacity of that phone,
with the old Phone, have you tried to Root and Update it? might work out better for you,

still got my S4 Mini on Android 11, even though it only came with Android 4.
or do what I did, shop around for a Used Older phone with the full fat version of android.

thats how I have a S9 running Arrow OS 12.1
 
there are many additional settings that are hidden .go into settings and search keywords .most of your questions are basic things .unless you got a really funky version thats tweaked
First thing I did. When I search for "block" all I find is the "do not disturb" option which can only be switched on and off; there's nothing about SMS spam detection strings, nothing about a music player (sorry, Youtube Music doesn't do it) and so on.
 
First thing I did. When I search for "block" all I find is the "do not disturb" option which can only be switched on and off; there's nothing about SMS spam detection strings, nothing about a music player (sorry, Youtube Music doesn't do it) and so on.
 
So what you're saying is that my Galaxy S3 mini from 2012 is a proper hpone but the A03 from 2021 isn't?

Uh-huh.
yes, strangely enough your S3 has plenty of support,

and your A03 Core is for people who want the basic basic in a phone, and nothing more.
for some its enough, for others not so much.
 
thats how I have a S9 running Arrow OS 12.1
Good for you. I can't afford an eight grand phone.

That said, the limitations of the "go" edition are well taken. Obviously "Android Go" stands for "Go ... yourself"... :(
 
yes, strangely enough your S3 has plenty of support,

and your A03 Core is for people who want the basic basic in a phone, and nothing more.
for some its enough, for others not so much.
That's all I want: basics. But they're missing, while there's a metric ton of Google bloatware that is not basic at all.
 
Good for you. I can't afford an eight grand phone.

That said, the limitations of the "go" edition are well taken. Obviously "Android Go" stands for "Go ... yourself"... :(
who told you I paid 8K for a Phone, I brought a Used Phone, that cost 1,7K with a Cracked screen,
the replacement of the screen costs 3K so I left it the way it is, most of the time its acceptable,

look on epicdeals/Gumtree and look for a s9/s10, or something else you can afford with your Budget.
 
That's all I want: basics. But they're missing, while there's a metric ton of Google bloatware that is not basic at all.
for some people that's all they want, obviously you aren't one of those people
get a better phone, used if you have to, best option you have.
 
First thing I did. When I search for "block" all I find is the "do not disturb" option which can only be switched on and off; there's nothing about SMS spam detection strings, nothing about a music player (sorry, Youtube Music doesn't do it) and so on.
I actually just went to a cell shop and asked if i can look at a Go edition , yip you can only toggle do not disturb on or off , thats really kak.That was an A03 core 32gig and 3gig . its actually a nice budget phone
 
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