Anti-piracy law

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Anti-piracy law

Sweden's tough new anti-piracy law has led to a sharp drop in illegal downloading, but critics say the effects will be short-lived and argue it is an excessive breach of personal privacy.

 

[Lazy]

So, for the time being, those legal letters and notices posted on the pirate bay's website won't be as funny anymore

 

[LazyLion]

haha. They think it has led to a drop. What they don't realize is that the guys have already moved on to other, more anonymous P2P technologies. You can bet that the file swapping is going on great guns at the LANs and people's houses.

The only way to fight piracy is through price and distribution.

 

[LazyLion]

This article outlines why the Music Industry's Distribution model is dead...

http://evolvor.com/2009/08/04/label-2-0-turns-the-classic-record-label-business-model-upside-down/

 

[ingeon]

haha. They think it has led to a drop. What they don't realize is that the guys have already moved on to other, more anonymous P2P technologies. You can bet that the file swapping is going on great guns at the LANs and people's houses.

The only way to fight piracy is through price and distribution.

+1

 

[Boomstomp]

haha. They think it has led to a drop. What they don't realize is that the guys have already moved on to other, more anonymous P2P technologies. You can bet that the file swapping is going on great guns at the LANs and people's houses.

The only way to fight piracy is through price and distribution.

+1

 

[killadoob]

haha. They think it has led to a drop. What they don't realize is that the guys have already moved on to other, more anonymous P2P technologies. You can bet that the file swapping is going on great guns at the LANs and people's houses.

The only way to fight piracy is through price and distribution.

I disagree, if you can stop torrents and news servers, there is basically no other means of getting all that stuff on the scale that those 2 offer.

This law has brought it down that is for sure. You say the only to fight piracy is threw pricing? So why do people still pirate pc games? they are damn cheap. Sounds like an excuse for us pirates to say pricing is to high, we are just cheap skates end of story

Say it however you like gary but all those 100's of gb's you downloaded on mweb local included many items you could have bought , instead you just pulled 100's of gb's.

Trouble is pirates never buy anything, they just pirate everything regardless of price. Please don't come tell me how you bought 20 cd's last month and 5 dvd's this month. Sad thing is pirates always need an excuse to make them feel better

 

[Moklet Kcuf]

haha. They think it has led to a drop. What they don't realize is that the guys have already moved on to other, more anonymous P2P technologies. You can bet that the file swapping is going on great guns at the LANs and people's houses.

The only way to fight piracy is through price and distribution.

+1

For anyone interested in the background to Copyright Law and the argument against it, you must watch this -
www.ripremix.com

It's based around the Mashup Media scene, but has relevance across the board.

 

[LazyLion]

I disagree, if you can stop torrents and news servers, there is basically no other means of getting all that stuff on the scale that those 2 offer.

Rubbish, there are twenty other ways of getting the stuff. Just because you are ignorant of them doesn't mean they don't exist. There are also hundreds of other sites in other countries to get torrents and Usenet stuff from. You shut down one in one country and they just move to a host in a different country.

This law has brought it down that is for sure. You say the only to fight piracy is threw pricing? So why do people still pirate pc games? they are damn cheap. Sounds like an excuse for us pirates to say pricing is to high, we are just cheap skates end of story

I don't have a problem with them releasing a PC game at R300 and then gradually reducing the price. But releasing it at R400 and then keeping the price above R300 for more than a year is ridiculous. But I don't pirate PC games anyway. It is too much hassle and they never work right. This article was mainly about music since it was the music industry that sued the Pirate Bay. PC Games are not cheap, and they are getting more expensive all the time. Console Game prices are absolutely ridiculous in price.

Trouble is pirates never buy anything, they just pirate everything regardless of price. Please don't come tell me how you bought 20 cd's last month and 5 dvd's this month. Sad thing is pirates always need an excuse to make them feel better

Absolute crap. You speak for yourself. Many of us can and do buy a lot of stuff. We would buy a lot more if it was more reasonable. Your comments are once again completely misaligned (no surprise there).

 

[killadoob]

Not at all, how much do you pull on your uncapped gary? also 100's of gb's?

Yea ok then, i am not talking about the piratebay i am saying if they monitor torrents and news servers, then you are very limited in terms of being able to download 100's of gb's a month in pirated goods. Sadly i do not know of any other way of getting stuff other than torrents and news servers, so if ISP's are forced to release the data they will see exactly what you have pulled down hense piracy will be dangerous and drop dramatically. I am not sure what you mean when you refer to torrents in one country or another though, does not make a different where you get the torrent if isp's are forced to release their data, a torrent from USA or China will be the same thing.

 

[LazyLion]

From my side? All I have to do is anonymise the transfer. They will have no way of knowing what I transferring every month. There are about ten different technologies available to anonymise the transfer, and new ones are being released all the time.

http://www.google.co.za/search?q=an...&aq=t&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___ZA326&client=firefox-a

 

[zll]

Trouble is pirates never buy anything, they just pirate everything regardless of price. Please don't come tell me how you bought 20 cd's last month and 5 dvd's this month. Sad thing is pirates always need an excuse to make them feel better.

Wow...just...wow.

All I have to do is anonymise the transfer. They will have no way of knowing what I transferring every month. There are about ten different technologies available to anonymise the transfer, and new ones are being released all the time.

Yeah my brother works at UCT and when he has to transfer data from the UK he just encrypts it. If an isp were to try and break that encryption it would be illegal.

 

[hexagon]

i am saying if they monitor torrents and news servers, then you are very limited in terms of being able to download 100's of gb's a month in pirated goods. Sadly i do not know of any other way of getting stuff other than torrents and news servers, so if ISP's are forced to release the data they will see exactly what you have pulled down hense piracy will be dangerous and drop dramatically.

Please get a clue. You can start by googling encryption, SSH, FreeNet, Darknet, Tor, etc.

The problem is that those making the laws and the industry sponsored lobbyists are equally clueless, so let's nip this in the bud before wasting countless hours and rands on technically unworkable solutions.