Anti Virus

Crowley said:
There are ways and means to upgrade to Windows 11. I did a Windows 11 install on a 6th gen laptop last night.
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I did the same with my 7th gen, I ended up reloading it with Windows 10 again. Win11 was basically unusable.

Ps. Upgraded my machine since then.
I see Absa has also cancelled their free Trend AV. Major let down.
 
rustypup said:
Que?
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Please forgive me. In my view, any 'antivirus review' website that includes the likes of Avast, AVG, etc. in their top-rated AVs, shouldn't be touched even with a barge pole. It seems like a site dedicated to taking corporate money in an attempt to sell poor solutions to inexperienced normies and boomers.

Will continue endorsing Malwarebytes, despite receiving the lowest rating. ESET I would use in a larger business/corp environment for sure.

Experience trounces review websites which these days are bought and paid for.
 
capd said:
Experience trounces review websites which these days are bought and paid for
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AV Comparatives has been around for ages and conducts robust assessments. Numbers don't lie.

MWB in the wrong hands WILL damage systems. Because failing to understand the importance of bulk registry edits or similar "remediations" can leave you in a fun state.

That being said, AV is old tech. Still has a use case but signature scanning is easily avoided with little effort. It's a blunt instrument with limited scope. Those that come with ATP will at least react a little quicker, for whatever value that adds.

Behaviour/heuristic analysis has value, if it's available.

The CVE landscape has moved far beyond what it used to be and every app/site we engage with represents a risk. Especially given how modern sites are "built", (read 'pulling random chunks of code from unamanged repos')

Running apps through Virus Total can yield depressing results for many popular apps - surprises like openssl or log4j *still* being packed with even the latest versions.

The reality is those that care or are aware and will act accordingly. The vast bulk of consumers will not. At that point we're in the realm of "something is better than nothing". These consumers treat AV like it's impenetrable armour as opposed to a seatbelt. ie, the last resort you really wouldn't want to rely on to save you.

As an aside, although I loathe Kaspersky based on historical experience, chatting with their engineering team at Ignite this year was interesting. They've spent significant effort to correct the ship and had some great deep fake detection tooling. Maybe there's actual hope there.
 
No idea which is the best but I have teh standard windows protection (think its bit defender) and downlaoded Malwarebytes and there was 45 viruses / malware detected...

Just looking for the best all in one defender (free or paid) that protects 1-2 devices


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L-Dog said:
No idea which is the best but I have teh standard windows protection (think its bit defender) and downlaoded Malwarebytes and there was 45 viruses / malware detected...

Just looking for the best all in one defender (free or paid) that protects 1-2 devices


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Perhaps PUPs are being misinterpreted as false positives
 
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