Anyone with physio, chiro or personal training experience?

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Hi Guys,

Have a shoulder issue I'd like some advice on. Ultimately probably need to see a physio but it's been a *** month and I can't manage that at the moment.

Essentially I have damaged something in my shoulder. This was in about August 2015 I believe. Was doing a lot of physical work (doing a large move) and was hanging off the side of a 3 tier storage rack. holding on with my right hand, using my left to pick up and lower objects to people standing on the ground below me. I'm right handed.

Anyway, some of the objects were quite heavy (furniture and such) and one was heavier than expected. It did something to my shoulder though I didn't really realise it at the time and kept on working. Next day my whole shoulder was locked up and I couldn't really move it.

Took a couple weeks to come right, saw a chiro who used a cold laser on it and that helped quite a lot to relieve the stiffness.

It's largely been better but every now and then it gets tweaked and hurts again.

Symptoms - weakness in the left shoulder in certain actions. I can bicep curl equal weights in both arms. But if I have my arms relaxed at my side and then extend them outwards (Vitruvian Man style) or forwards, the left is weak. I just did it now with an empty glass water jug (~2kg?) and it hurt. When it's really hurt, actions like reaching for a door handled are killer, literally dropped to my knees once from the pain.

Also, when it gets really inflamed, the shoulder joint doesn't work correctly, so instead of the arm rolling in the joint when I extend it sideways, it will roll for a bit and then the entire shoulder lifts. Sort of looks like I'm shrugging but only on the one side.

As I said, it's not constant, but obviously something is still hurt or damaged. I have had an MRI done, but was never actually given a diagnosis or anything based on that. (Still have it on CD if anyone wants to see a 3D, controllable MRI of a shoulder :P)

Ideally I could just do some strength exercises to slowly build strength back into the muscles. (I assume certain muscles are weak, others are compensating and this is aggravating the issue).

Any suggestions or thoughts?
 
Stick with the Physio, preferably avoid the Chiro.
/ Can of Worms - open.
 
LazyLion said:
Stick with the Physio, preferably avoid the Chiro.
/ Can of Worms - open.
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Chiro did wonders for me, got me able to use my arm. But I don't think a chiro is going to fix it, more like alleviate it. Thing is I don't have sufficient understanding of human anatomy, hence this thread.
 
UrBaN963 said:
As I said, it's not constant, but obviously something is still hurt or damaged. I have had an MRI done, but was never actually given a diagnosis or anything based on that.
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How is that possible, did your doctor not send you to have the MRI done? A physio will refer you a specialist if he can't fix the problem.
 
Shoulder injuries can be one of a number of different issues, they are not always clear cut:

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain/rotator-cuff-strain

Some exercises one can try, and from that maybe gain a better understanding of how the injury is affecting you, thus providing the next professional you see with more info than "my shoulder hurts"
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain/rotator-cuff-exercises

If possible try see a sports Physio.
 
Lucas Buck said:
How is that possible, did your doctor not send you to have the MRI done? A physio will refer you a specialist if he can't fix the problem.
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After seeing the chiro twice, she referred me to get the MRI. Forget why off hand but for some reason it didn't progress from there.

Nanfeishen said:
Shoulder injuries can be one of a number of different issues, they are not always clear cut:

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain

http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain/rotator-cuff-strain

Some exercises one can try, and from that maybe gain a better understanding of how the injury is affecting you, thus providing the next professional you see with more info than "my shoulder hurts"
http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain/rotator-cuff-exercises

If possible try see a sports Physio.
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Thank you, will check those out.
 
Nanfeishen said:
Now you know, glad to help, hope it works out without any surgery being required
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Me too :D

Slootvreter said:
Agreed. Chiro = quack
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I don't agree with this. They do have their place, just not as a one-stop shop. Before going to the chiro I couldn't move my arm. Upon leaving, I had 80% mobility and no pain. If that's quackery then I'm all for it.
 
UrBaN963 said:
Me too :D


I don't agree with this. They do have their place, just not as a one-stop shop. Before going to the chiro I couldn't move my arm. Upon leaving, I had 80% mobility and no pain. If that's quackery then I'm all for it.
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I do not believe they have any place.
 
Slootvreter said:
I do not believe they have any place.
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You're entitled to your opinion.

EDIT: In fact I would be interested in hearing your opinion, and would be happy to discuss it. However, can we please do that in a different thread, as that is not the purpose of this one.
 
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Shoulder muscle injuries are very serious.
If not attended to you will lose the use of that side.
If the shoulder movement is affected you better get to the experts highspeed.
Painkillers are not the answer lol.
A friend of mine had a fall from a bicycle in the veld onto his shoulder. He has so much misery from that injury even after two operations.
I had injuries to both my shoulders and muscles and still suffer from it forty years on.
 
REAList_1 said:
Shoulder muscle injuries are very serious.
If not attended to you will lose the use of that side.
If the shoulder movement is affected you better get to the experts highspeed.
Painkillers are not the answer lol.
A friend of mine had a fall from a bicycle in the veld onto his shoulder. He has so much misery from that injury even after two operations.
I had injuries to both my shoulders and muscles and still suffer from it forty years on.
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Don't take painkillers, ever. Maybe 15 in the last 20 years, all for for my appendectomy.
Yea I realise it's something I need handled, hence the thread.

Thanks man.
 
Do some light rotator cuff exercises and see if there's discomfort.

Reaching for a handle pain sounds like frontal deltoid ligament sprain.

Try some ice in the front of your shoulder and see if there's an improvement.
 
WaxLyrical said:
Do some light rotator cuff exercises and see if there's discomfort.

Reaching for a handle pain sounds like frontal deltoid ligament sprain.

Try some ice in the front of your shoulder and see if there's an improvement.
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Ok I'll try that.
[video]http://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/shoulder-pain/rotator-cuff-tear[/video]
The standing portion of this video pretty much indicates all of the movements that cause pain and/or weakness.
 
Would have thought that anything that causes a strain or tear would hurt like hell when it happened?

I'm having shoulder issues as well. But mine seems to be a compressed nerve in my neck.
 
Sinbad said:
Would have thought that anything that causes a strain or tear would hurt like hell when it happened?

I'm having shoulder issues as well. But mine seems to be a compressed nerve in my neck.
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It did, but it was the second or third day of a lot of carrying and moving so my muscles and joints were already sore, this was sort of just another ache. It wasn't an instant pain, like a break or a tear. Only really noticed it getting stiff. Then later that evening it started hurting like a mofo.
 
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