Apple CEO takes a shot at the Surface tablet

One of the toughest things you do with what product to make, is to make hard trade-offs and decide what a product should be, and we’ve really done that with the iPad, so the user experience is incredible. I suppose you could design a car that flies and floats, but I don’t think it would do all of those things very well.
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Yes, but now you only have to buy the car - instead of also having to buy a boat and an aeroplane..
 
Joker said:
I suppose you could design a car that flies and floats, but I don’t think it would do all of those things very well.
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But isn't that what the iPad is?
 
He is just afraid... as he should be.

If Windows Tablet takes off they can say goodby to market leader in the tablet sector and thats gonna hurt esp seeing that they lost the Phone market segment to Android.
 
AlphaJohn said:
He is just afraid... as he should be.

If Windows Tablet takes off they can say goodby to market leader in the tablet sector and thats gonna hurt esp seeing that they lost the Phone market segment to Android.
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Lost the phone market? Did you see their last earnings call? They seem to own the market (Excluding low end, where they never operate)
 
JStrike said:
Lost the phone market? Did you see their last earnings call? They seem to own the market (Excluding low end, where they never operate)
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Yay, JStrike the Apple Crusader comes riding into the thread in his gleaming brushed Aluminum Armor! :D
 
I have been using windows 8 RTM for a month now, and i have to agree with cook, it is a child of two worlds, but who cares, its still bloody great.
 
JStrike said:
Lost the phone market? Did you see their last earnings call? They seem to own the market (Excluding low end, where they never operate)
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Unless you a Shareholder that number means jack when we come to market lead, and saying Apple do not operate in the low end is also a lie. If they ignored low end they would not downmark older versions.

Note market share is not about quality, or price its about how many is in the market.

Here are IDC's figures for worldwide smartphone unit sales and market share in the second quarter of 2012, by operating system.
Android (Google Inc.) — 104.8 million units, 68.1 percent share (46.9 percent a year earlier)
iOS (Apple Inc.'s iPhone) — 26.0 million units, 16.9 percent share (18.8 percent a year earlier)
BlackBerry (Research in Motion Ltd.) — 7.4 million units, 4.8 percent share (11.5 percent a year earlier)
Symbian (mostly used by Nokia Corp.) — 6.8 million units, 4.4 percent share (16.9 percent a year earlier)
Windows (Microsoft Corp.) — 5.4 million units, 3.5 percent share (2.3 percent a year earlier)
Linux — 3.5 million units, 2.3 percent share (3.0 percent a year earlier)
Others — 0.1 million units, 0.1 percent share (0.5 percent a year earlier)
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Source http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS23638712
 
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That Metro interface looks horrible! I don't even want to test it.
It really looks like a 4-year old designed it.

I would much rather go for an Android tablet.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Unless you a Shareholder that number means jack when we come to market lead, and saying Apple do not operate in the low end is also a lie. If they ignored low end they would not downmark older versions.

Note market share is not about quality, or price its about how many is in the market.


Source IDC
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I'm not disputing that they have small market share (About 50% in wealthy markets, and something like 10% in poor markets iirc).
What I am disputing is they lost the market. They have only every competed in the high end of the smartphone market, and still do quite well there.
Calling every rubbish phone out there that runs Android a "smartphone" is a disservice. Those phones are actually in the same market as Nokia's low end phones. Only the S3, OneX, etc class of Android phones should be considered smartphones. Same goes for the Nokia Asha range etc
 
Back to the actual point, I disagree with Mr Cook, I think the Surface is a pretty decent device, and will do very well
 
JStrike said:
I'm not disputing that they have small market share (About 50% in wealthy markets, and something like 10% in poor markets iirc).
What I am disputing is they lost the market. They have only every competed in the high end of the smartphone market, and still do quite well there.
Calling every rubbish phone out there that runs Android a "smartphone" is a disservice. Those phones are actually in the same market as Nokia's low end phones. Only the S3, OneX, etc class of Android phones should be considered smartphones. Same goes for the Nokia Asha range etc
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That is rather ignorant, considering that the low end Android phones often have greater functionality than the iPhone, and have for years.

Just because something is expensive does not make it a smartphone.
 
I wish I could lose like Apple.








As for Surface, well... it remains to be seen how the market responds. I personally don't think the Surface device is confusing, but WinRT is heckuva confusing and it's going to cause massive problems. But a decent keyboard on a tablet? It's a no-brainer, sorry Tim Cook.
 
JStrike said:
Calling every rubbish phone out there that runs Android a "smartphone" is a disservice. Those phones are actually in the same market as Nokia's low end phones. Only the S3, OneX, etc class of Android phones should be considered smartphones. Same goes for the Nokia Asha range etc
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So what exactly does a phone need to do to be called a smartphone? Email? Browsing? Apps?
 
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