Apple ID - no iCloud ?

[Dolby]

I've got an Alexa and I'd like to be able to use both it, as well as my phone at the same time .

I'm assuming that 1 x stream only like Spotify - and if I'm listening to something on my phone and another plays a song on Alexa, it'll cut off my stream . I've therefore signed up for Apple One and thought I'd assign Alexa her own Apple ID ... but won't accept iCloud ? Surely that would be the preferred - or am I doing something wrong ?

 

[SauRoNZA]

I'm not understanding what you are asking at all.

Why would you want to give Alexa it's own Apple ID? It gets connected to your own.

Are you Bluetoothing to Alexa? That's the only reason it would cut off the stream, you want something to play natively "from" Alexa.

Not sure what you mean with won't "accept iCloud" ?

 

[Dolby]

Why would you want to give Alexa it's own Apple ID? It gets connected to your own.

With Spotify, I entered my own details into Alexa upfront . However, I'd be driving home from the office listening to my own playlist and back at home, someone has asked Alexa to play something - which immediately kills whatever I'm listening to in the car (often a podcast). I could then pull it back and continue listening in the car - but it kills Baby Shark on the Alexa at home . It wouldn't do two streams at once.

I then changed to Spotify DUO and gave her Alexa her own details and I had my own details - and all was great as 'she' was total independent of me.

Are you Bluetoothing to Alexa? That's the only reason it would cut off the stream, you want something to play natively "from" Alexa.

So you're saying I can have Alexa playing a separate stream, and it wouldn't cut off my stream?
In other words two streams from one account ?

Not sure what you mean with won't "accept iCloud" ?

Seems I can't use my icloud.com address ?

 

[Rickster]

Its @eyecloud.com not @icloud.com

 

[SauRoNZA]

With Spotify, I entered my own details into Alexa upfront . However, I'd be driving home from the office listening to my own playlist and back at home, someone has asked Alexa to play something - which immediately kills whatever I'm listening to in the car (often a podcast). I could then pull it back and continue listening in the car - but it kills Baby Shark on the Alexa at home . It wouldn't do two streams at once.

I then changed to Spotify DUO and gave her Alexa her own details and I had my own details - and all was great as 'she' was total independent of me.


So you're saying I can have Alexa playing a separate stream, and it wouldn't cut off my stream?
In other words two streams from one account ?


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Seems I can't use my icloud.com address ?

iCloud.com address is already an Apple ID. It already exists so you can’t create a new one. You just need to log in with that.

Just like any @gmail.com address is a Google Account.

If we are talking about Apple Music then yes it can play in multiple places at once, none of this weird playing the same thing everywhere stuff.

 

[Dolby]

If we are talking about Apple Music then yes it can play in multiple places at once, none of this weird playing the same thing everywhere stuff.

So an individual account actually supports multiple concurrent music steams ?

Sounds very un-Apple like, but I'll give it a go later

 

[SauRoNZA]

So an individual account actually supports multiple concurrent music steams ?

Sounds very un-Apple like, but I'll give it a go later

I play in the Car, on HomePods and AirPods all at once if I wanted to do that for some bizarre reason.

Apple is hardly as closed as you like to think.

They’ve had multi device licensing baked in for more than a decade, since the very beginning of the AppStore.

Family Sharing supports 5 people and I want to say 5 devices each, but may have even been more.

In fact it’s very bizarre to me Spotify doesn’t do this. If anything it’s then one final reason for Apple Music over it quite easily that I didn’t know of.

 

[Dolby]

I play in the Car, on HomePods and AirPods all at once if I wanted to do that for some bizarre reason.

In fact it’s very bizarre to me Spotify doesn’t do this. If anything it’s then one final reason for Apple Music over it quite easily that I didn’t know of.

Why do you find the situation so bizarre ?

Every streaming service in he world has a maximum concurrent connections, some may be one - but others like Netflix can be up to 4. The site below actually says it is limited - but like I say, I'll try

Can Apple Music subscriptions be shared to more than one device? - RouteNote Blog

How Apple Music's Family Plan can effectively reduce the cost of subscriptions to just $2.50, with individual libraries and recommendations.

routenote.com

A single Student or Individual plan can be signed in on up to six devices, however only one device can stream music at a time. If you start streaming on another device, the first one will be stopped. This is to stop multiple users sharing the same Apple Music account and ensures artists get their fair revenue share.

 

[bwana]

In fact it’s very bizarre to me Spotify doesn’t do this. If anything it’s then one final reason for Apple Music over it quite easily that I didn’t know of.

Spotify works on one user one device which is pretty handy since I can control what coming out of my Alexa from the spotify app on my phone. I suppose I could have set up different accounts for different devices on my family plan but not really sure why I would want to.

 

[Dolby]

Spotify works on one user one device which is pretty handy since I can control what coming out of my Alexa from the spotify app on my phone.

Which is great to be able to cast the music wherever you need, but ...

I suppose I could have set up different accounts for different devices on my family plan but not really sure why I would want to.

... when my kids play on Alexa , it kills my music when I'm on the road as now there are two devices. Hence, I went Spotify DUO to setup Alexa with it's own account that won't interfere - and that's what I'm assuming I need to do with Apple music

 

[greg0205]

Why do you find the situation so bizarre ?

Every streaming service in he world has a maximum concurrent connections, some may be one - but others like Netflix can be up to 4. The site below actually says it is limited - but like I say, I'll try

Can Apple Music subscriptions be shared to more than one device? - RouteNote Blog

How Apple Music's Family Plan can effectively reduce the cost of subscriptions to just $2.50, with individual libraries and recommendations.

routenote.com

A single Student or Individual plan can be signed in on up to six devices, however only one device can stream music at a time. If you start streaming on another device, the first one will be stopped. This is to stop multiple users sharing the same Apple Music account and ensures artists get their fair revenue share.

Dunno about that... I have Hot 102.7 streaming on one HomePod mini, and a favourites mix streaming on the other right now.

EDIT: But this is Apple Music and Siri, no Alexa or Spotify involved.

 

[bwana]

... when my kids play on Alexa , it kills my music when I'm on the road as now there are two devices. Hence, I went Spotify DUO to setup Alexa with it's own account that won't interfere - and that's what I'm assuming I need to do with Apple music

We have a family plan. The kids get their own accounts. I don't want their crappy taste in music influencing my playlists. Same goes for Youtube, except that one is a whole lot cheaper than spotify.

 

[Dolby]

Dunno about that... I have Hot 102.7 streaming on one HomePod mini, and a favourites mix streaming on the other right now.

That's a free radio station ?

Netflix limit
Spotify Limit
Apple TV limit
Prime Video limit

etc etc etc

 

[Dolby]

We have a family plan. The kids get their own accounts. I don't want their crappy taste in music influencing my playlists. Same goes for Youtube, except that one is a whole lot cheaper than spotify.

I've got Apple One already for that exact reason - I don't want it affecting my playlist either .

And that's where my issue was - I tried to create an iCloud email for Alexa and it wouldn't accept anything ending in @icloud.

 

[greg0205]

That's a free radio station ?

Netflix limit
Spotify Limit
Apple TV limit

etc etc etc

TuneIn is available through Apple Music... I created shortcuts to the stations I listen to and now I just ask Siri to play 'em.

 

[Dolby]

TuneIn is available through Apple Music... I just created shortcuts to the stations I listen to and now I just ask Siri to play 'em.

Yea but they're all free radio stations .

Billable streaming services seem to be limited for fairly obvious reasons. According the what I've read, even all the Apple stuff is actually limited

 

[bwana]

And that's where my issue was - I tried to create an iCloud email for Alexa and it wouldn't accept anything ending in @icloud.

Because an @icloud email address would already be associated with an apple ID?

 

[greg0205]

Yea but they're all free radio stations .

Billable streaming services seem to be limited for fairly obvious reasons. According the what I've read, even all the Apple stuff is actually limited

Yeah, I'm an Apple Music kinda guy, never really bothered with Spotify... Still, the HomePods can each do their own thing without stopping the other.

 

[Dolby]

Because an @icloud email address would already be associated with an apple ID?

So the best way forward in my case is new Gmail account / register new Apple ID and add onto the Alexa device?

 

[Dolby]

Yeah, I'm an Apple Music kinda guy, never really bothered with Spotify... Still, the HomePods can each do their own thing without stopping the other.

The issue I had in the past was really :

- No Alexa support
- No MQA
- No lossless / spatial audio