Apple removes Flash support from OS X

Synaesthesia

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This great news just in from FSJ: Steve Jobs has announced that Flash will soon no longer be supported on Mac OS X

This is an important new change. But in the near future we will be removing support for Flash from our OS X operating system.

This is for all the same reasons that I cited in my essay, “Thoughts on Flash.” Those reasons apply to OS X as well as to iPhone. And let’s go over them again:

1. We’re all about being open. The Mac with OS X is the most open environment ever. Except when it’s running Flash. Thus, goodbye Flash.

2. Hardly any videos use Flash anymore. The ones that do aren’t watching. Take my word on this.

3. Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. Well, not anymore.

4. Battery life. I can’t tell you how many emails I get from people begging me to disable Flash so that their MacBook Pro will run longer. I mean literally I can’t tell you. But it’s a lot. Well, friends, your wish has been granted.

5. Mice. Flash was designed for them. MacBook Pro does not have one.

6. Cross platform. Simply put, our customers do not want a world in which it is easy for developers to write apps that run on many platforms. They want this work to be hard for developers. I don’t know why. You’ll have to ask the customers. We’re just listening to them, and doing what they want.

Conclusions: No more Flash on the Mac. Now let’s celebrate.

Also: As of some day really soon, Gawker Media Web sites will not be supported in Safari, both on iPhone OS and OS X. Purely for technology reasons. Same for advertisements sold by Google. They were fine in the PC era. But now they just look ugly. Our users don’t want them on their Macs.

Also: Under iPhone OS 4.0, certain phone numbers will not work on iPhone, both for incoming and outgoing calls. We won’t tell you which numbers these are, but trust us, they’re not numbers you should be calling, and definitely not numbers you want calling you. If you call us to find out whether a certain number is on our blocked list, we will tell you the following: “That information is not available.”

That is all for now. For a longer explanation of why these changes make sense, stay tuned to John Gruber.
 

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Must say, I love the idea that the google ads wont run, they eat up most of my bandwidth and it really irritates the hell out of me when I want to read an article and its spread of 12 pages, with a paragraph per page to make profit for the site (Toms Hardware). Guess whos only gonna be using safari in windows from now.
 

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You do know this is a joke though.

Yup, considering Mac OS X already doesn't really support it as it is an optional downloadable extension ;) Would have to make a considerable effort to block it, like the iPhone :p
 

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Actually Macs come with Flash pre-installed, Windows users have to download it separately. ;)

And Flash 10.1 looks like a great improvement on performance for the Mac. While Apple has shunned flash for it's iDevices, it seems to be working together with Adobe to improve Flash on Macs.
 

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Well you know this is BS when you try to put "most open platform" and "do not support [name whatever you want here]" in one sentence.

People need to freaking read up what "open" means, it means supporting ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. Whether it's a proprietary product or the actual application is "closed source" shouldn't matter.

It's like saying "hey we have the most open platform ever!" and then going "sorry, no google voice, google maps , google docs , microsoft products and adobe products will be supported because we don't like their business strategy'. Huh?

Microsoft is therefore a zillion times more "open" than Apple, sorry, but that's the reality of it. Microsoft don't dictate what may or may not run on Windows do they? If everyone wants to use flash, or silverlight or HTML5, Microsoft is not going to stop you.
 

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Diabolus, this post is not a real announcement, it was just a joke. It's a link to a satirical webpage.
 

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Diabolus, this post is not a real announcement, it was just a joke. It's a link to a satirical webpage.

I know but it is pretty much what Steve Jobs is trying to do, as funny as this may be . I just think Apple is a bunch of hypocrites in saying they are all for "open" , yet they're the first to dictate what apps can run on the iphone or not, simply because it interferes with -their- standards [not "open standards" , APPLE standards] .


And in that essay from Jobs:
HTML5 is completely open and controlled by a standards committee, of which Apple is a member

Again, i don't think Apple cares about "open standards", they only care about the fact that they can have THEIR standards pushed in there. Apple has no say over Flash Standards, hence they don't like it.

Now i'm not saying Flash or HTML5 is good or bad or better , i'm just saying i don't believe Apple is "open" or doing this for the user. They are doing it because they want a say and want to control more aspects of the market , most likely patent it, get royalties from it and sue others from using it.
 
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Well 95% of Apps are allowed first time, there are 185 000 Apps for iPhone. It's not hard to get on the App store. Microsoft is also not letting Flash on their Windows Mobile 7.
 

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Well 95% of Apps are allowed first time, there are 185 000 Apps for iPhone. It's not hard to get on the App store. Microsoft is also not letting Flash on their Windows Mobile 7.

Apple denied Google's apps because it changed too many elements of their "standard" platform on the iphone, so there's alot more politics and -monopolistic- behaviour happening here. Just because they allow so many apps doesn't mean anything, it can mean they've -forced- everyone to conform "or else you don't get in" and hence, everyone just do it according to Apple standards. 10 years from now everyone is going to wonder WTF hit them and why Apple is screwing us all and why we have no alternative.

As for the WinMo7 thing, that's not true, Microsoft didn't say they don't WANT to support it, they just said that they don't have time to build support for it when it launches. So it's not priority, and chances are they'll slip it in eventually, unlike Apple who's flatout refusing to support it.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/14/adobe-confirms-no-flash-in-windows-mobile-7/
Adobe has confirmed that there will be no Adobe Flash support in Windows Mobile 7, at least at the initial launch. However, Microsoft and Adobe are working very closely together to add in support for Adobe Flash 10.1, shortly after the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
 
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Steve Jobs, he is such an iCon :) His business and cult control methods are super duper interesting.
 

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10 years from now everyone is going to wonder WTF hit them and why Apple is screwing us all and why we have no alternative.
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Unless you choose not to use Apple. There will always be an alternative! Jeez do you think all the major players are just gonna let Apple dominate everything? Android is growing faster than iPhone FYI.
 
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