Arab Spring and the Israeli enemy

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Thirty-nine years ago, on Oct. 6, 1973, the third major war between the Arabs and Israel broke out. The war lasted only 20 days. The two sides were engaged in two other major wars, in 1948 and 1967.

The 1967 War lasted only six days. But, these three wars were not the only Arab-Israel confrontations. From the period of 1948 and to this day many confrontations have taken place. Some of them were small clashes and many of them were full-scale battles, but there were no major wars apart from the ones mentioned above. The Arab-Israeli conflict is the most complicated conflict the world ever experienced. On the anniversary of the 1973 War between the Arab and the Israelis, many people in the Arab world are beginning to ask many questions about the past, present and the future with regard to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The questions now are: What was the real cost of these wars to the Arab world and its people. And the harder question that no Arab national wants to ask is: What was the real cost for not recognizing Israel in 1948 and why didn’t the Arab states spend their assets on education, health care and the infrastructures instead of wars? But, the hardest question that no Arab national wants to hear is whether Israel is the real enemy of the Arab world and the Arab people.

I decided to write this article after I saw photos and reports about a starving child in Yemen, a burned ancient Aleppo souk in Syria, the under developed Sinai in Egypt, car bombs in Iraq and the destroyed buildings in Libya. The photos and the reports were shown on the Al-Arabiya network, which is the most watched and respected news outlet in the Middle East.
The common thing among all what I saw is that the destruction and the atrocities are not done by an outside enemy. The starvation, the killings and the destruction in these Arab countries are done by the same hands that are supposed to protect and build the unity of these countries and safeguard the people of these countries. So, the question now is that who is the real enemy of the Arab world?

The Arab world wasted hundreds of billions of dollars and lost tens of thousands of innocent lives fighting Israel, which they considered is their sworn enemy, an enemy whose existence they never recognized. The Arab world has many enemies and Israel should have been at the bottom of the list. The real enemies of the Arab world are corruption, lack of good education, lack of good health care, lack of freedom, lack of respect for the human lives and finally, the Arab world had many dictators who used the Arab-Israeli conflict to suppress their own people.

These dictators’ atrocities against their own people are far worse than all the full-scale Arab-Israeli wars.

In the past, we have talked about why some Israeli soldiers attack and mistreat Palestinians. Also, we saw Israeli planes and tanks attack various Arab countries. But, do these attacks match the current atrocities being committed by some Arab states against their own people.

In Syria, the atrocities are beyond anybody’s imaginations? And, isn’t the Iraqis are the ones who are destroying their own country? Wasn’t it Tunisia’s dictator who was able to steal 13 billion dollars from the poor Tunisians? And how can a child starve in Yemen if their land is the most fertile land in the world? Why would Iraqi brains leave Iraq in a country that makes 110 billion dollars from oil export? Why do the Lebanese fail to govern one of the tiniest countries in the world? And what made the Arab states start sinking into chaos?

On May 14, 1948 the state of Israel was declared. And just one day after that, on May 15, 1948 the Arabs declared war on Israel to get back Palestine. The war ended on March 10, 1949. It lasted for nine months, three weeks and two days. The Arabs lost the war and called this war Nakbah (catastrophic war). The Arabs gained nothing and thousands of Palestinians became refugees.

And on 1967, the Arabs led by Egypt under the rule of Gamal Abdul Nasser, went in war with Israel and lost more Palestinian land and made more Palestinian refugees who are now on the mercy of the countries that host them. The Arabs called this war Naksah (upset). The Arabs never admitted defeat in both wars and the Palestinian cause got more complicated. And now, with the never ending Arab Spring, the Arab world has no time for the Palestinians refugees or Palestinian cause, because many Arabs are refugees themselves and under constant attacks from their own forces. Syrians are leaving their own country, not because of the Israeli planes dropping bombs on them.

It is the Syrian Air Force which is dropping the bombs. And now, Iraqi Arab Muslims, most intelligent brains, are leaving Iraq for the est. In Yemen, the world’s saddest human tragedy play is being written by the Yemenis. In Egypt, the people in Sinai are forgotten.

Finally, if many of the Arab states are in such disarray, then what happened to the Arabs’ sworn enemy (Israel)? Israel now has the most advanced research facilities, top universities and advanced infrastructure. Many Arabs don’t know that the life expectancy of the Palestinians living in Israel is far longer than many Arab states and they enjoy far better political and social freedom than many of their Arab brothers. Even the Palestinians living under Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip enjoy more political and social rights than some places in the Arab World. Wasn’t one of the judges who sent a former Israeli president to jail is an Israeli-Palestinian?

The Arab Spring showed the world that the Palestinians are happier and in better situation than their Arab brothers who fought to liberate them from the Israelis. Now, it is time to stop the hatred and wars and start to create better living conditions for the future Arab generations.
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Doesn't hurt having one of the largest 1st world countries looking out for you either :p
 
Excellent article, but as you can see from the post above, it will mostly be lost on the people who need to hear it the most.
 
Garyvdh said:
Excellent article, but as you can see from the post above, it will mostly be lost on the people who need to hear it the most.
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as you can see from this post, there was nothing to add and just wanted to take a dig which is increasingly becoming the norm for some posters here
 
Geriatrix said:
Well, the other side has(had?) the richest natural oil resources in the world so...
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aren't they being sanctioned? i mean it's a very good article, i agree with the problems and that Israel is a 1st class country, but if someone took MY land away, i'd spend money and resources on trying to get it back. not to say that it IS their land, but that is how they see it. also, America does support Israel a lot, so it's never REALLy been Israel on its on
 
Neck_Monster said:
aren't they being sanctioned? i mean it's a very good article, i agree with the problems and that Israel is a 1st class country, but if someone took MY land away, i'd spend money and resources on trying to get it back. not to say that it IS their land, but that is how they see it. also, America does support Israel a lot, so it's never REALLy been Israel on its on
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The whole Arabworld? No.
 
Neck_Monster said:
as you can see from this post, there was nothing to add and just wanted to take a dig which is increasingly becoming the norm for some posters here
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Well, the article makes the point that the Arab world would probably have been better off not engaging with Israel at all (despite who her allies may be) and focusing on re-construction and development.

But as is typical of most of the Arab world they cannot see past the simple fact of Israel's existence and are obsessed with destroying her militarily... which has brought nothing but ruin and misery for themselves. Furthermore, because of their own belligerence, they often devolve into in-fighting and civil war.

Now as regards your initial post in this thread, I was commenting on the fact that you automatically disregarded the main point of the OP's article and immediately focused on Israel and her allies as if once again viewing her in a military defensive mode.

Which was why I pointed out the irony of such behaviour. ;)
 
Neck_Monster said:
aren't they being sanctioned? i mean it's a very good article, i agree with the problems and that Israel is a 1st class country, but if someone took MY land away, i'd spend money and resources on trying to get it back. not to say that it IS their land, but that is how they see it. also, America does support Israel a lot, so it's never REALLy been Israel on its on
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Most of the land that Israel sits on was bought from the Arab nomadic tribes that owned it. Another large portion was land already owned by the Jews who have been there for millennia. The remaining land owned by settled Arabs would still be owned by Arabs if they had not run away on the founding after assuming that the Jews would slaughter them; this was a projection of how they would have handled the Jews if the situation were reversed. On the founding, all Arabs that chose to remain became Israeli citizens and still own the land they already owned. As the article states, Arabs living in Israel have much better lives and freer lives than their barbarian brothers over the borders.

Israel was by no means a stolen nation. In fact the Jews have a provable historical claim to a much larger piece of the Arab world around it and were they of Arab mindset, would be violently trying to reacquire it. The Jews however, are a civilized people and make do with what they have.

The Arab Israeli conflict is completely a one sided problem. If the Arabs would make real peace (not just a cease fire to rearm and restock), this conflict would be over and if the moronic Arabs ever grew a brain cell and traded with Israel, they would reap massive benefits.

But this dream will never happen because the Arabs are not civilized and show no intention of ever changing.
 
Garyvdh said:
Well, the article makes the point that the Arab world would probably have been better off not engaging with Israel at all (despite who her allies may be) and focusing on re-construction and development.

But as is typical of most of the Arab world they cannot see past the simple fact of Israel's existence and are obsessed with destroying her militarily... which has brought nothing but ruin and misery for themselves. Furthermore, because of their own belligerence, they often devolve into in-fighting and civil war.

Now as regards your initial post in this thread, I was commenting on the fact that you automatically disregarded the main point of the OP's article and immediately focused on Israel and her allies as if once again viewing her in a military defensive mode.

Which was why I pointed out the irony of such behaviour. ;)
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And i simply mentioned had Israel not had america on their side, engaging with Israel may have been worth it in their eyes. i still fully agree with the article, but to say that Israel has the most advance everything and suggesting it's because they took the time away from making war to invest in it is wrong in my eyes. they had help, and there is nothing wrong with that either. just give credit where credit is due
 
Neck_Monster said:
And i simply mentioned had Israel not had america on their side, engaging with Israel may have been worth it in their eyes. i still fully agree with the article, but to say that Israel has the most advance everything and suggesting it's because they took the time away from making war to invest in it is wrong in my eyes. they had help, and there is nothing wrong with that either. just give credit where credit is due
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In 1948 Israel's history with the USA was hardly tested or noted.
Other than the fact that there was a sizeable population of Jewish people living in the USA and other than the fact that the USA supported Israel's bid for a homeland, there was no record of military support up to that stage. The Arabs had no prediction that the USA would come down that strongly on the side of Israel, esp. right after WW2. The point is... that the Arabs were the aggressors and invaded the newly formed state almost immediately.
 
Geriatrix said:
Well, the other side has(had?) the richest natural oil resources in the world so...
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Whats Israel monthly AID from the US? 7 Billion or something? Zim could show awesome growth from that monthly bail out.
Besides all the tax the Israelis pay!

They also get preferred import and export rates from all the other countries around the world, how easy to run the Israelis economy. ECOS101 and you clear.
 
Haldex said:
Whats Israel monthly AID from the US? 7 Billion or something? Zim could show awesome growth from that monthly bail out.
Besides all the tax the Israelis pay!

They also get preferred import and export rates from all the other countries around the world, how easy to run the Israelis economy. ECOS101 and you clear.
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True, true. But what's the total monthly oil-based revenue for the other side?
 
Haldex said:
Whats Israel monthly AID from the US? 7 Billion or something? Zim could show awesome growth from that monthly bail out.
Besides all the tax the Israelis pay!

They also get preferred import and export rates from all the other countries around the world, how easy to run the Israelis economy. ECOS101 and you clear.
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You think Zim will use it for growth? LOL.
 
Neck_Monster said:
Doesn't hurt having one of the largest 1st world countries looking out for you either :p
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How much aid did Isreal get from the US prior to 1967 ?

Military assistance only began AFTER the 1967 war. In the 2 wars with the Arab countries in 1948 and 1967, they defeated the Arabs without any significant US Aid. In fact these Arab countries recieved loads more aid from the USSR. So dont forget who was piling arms into the arab countries :D
 
Haldex said:
Whats Israel monthly AID from the US? 7 Billion or something? Zim could show awesome growth from that monthly bail out.
Besides all the tax the Israelis pay!

They also get preferred import and export rates from all the other countries around the world, how easy to run the Israelis economy. ECOS101 and you clear.
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Lets not overly exaggerate - the aid Israel receives is under 3 billion a year and is primary tied into military spending back into various USA companies.
Israel has large foreign reserves these days and would do just fine without the USA aid - but it works two ways as Israel spends far more than 3 billion a year on purchasing USA military equipment.
Iraq and Afghanistan receive far more aid, amounting to 12 billion a year and their economies and countries are in a mess, Egypt and Pakistan aren't far behind as well in the amount they receive.
 
Good read. Nice find OP. You would think with the insane natural resources the Arab world has their living conditions would be top notch. I guess the real contrast comes in when you compare those arab states who militarily oppose Israel (Syria, Lebanon, to an extent Egypt) versus those that are more ambivalent towards it (UAE, Qatar, Bahrain)
 
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