Article: Guantanamo bay turns 10

This Wednesday will mark the ten-year anniversary of the opening of the Guantanamo prison camp. In The New York Times, one of the camp’s former prisoners, Lakhdar Boumediene, has an incredibly powerful Op-Ed recounting the gross injustice of his due-process-free detention, which lasted seven years. It was clear from the start that the accusations against this Bosnian citizen — who at the time of the 9/11 attack was the Red Crescent Society’s director of humanitarian aid for Bosnian children — were false; indeed, a high court in Bosnia investigated and cleared him of American charges of Terrorism. But U.S. forces nonetheless abducted him, tied him up, shipped him to Guantanamo, and kept him there for seven years with no trial.

In September, 2006, the U.S. Congress passed the Military Commissions Act (MCA) which, among other things, not only authorized the detention of accused Terrorist suspects without a trial, but even explicitly denied all Guantanamo detainees the right of habeas corpus: the Constitutionally mandated procedure to allow prisoners at least one opportunity to convince a court that they are being wrongfully held. Habeas hearings are a much lower form of protection than a full trial: the government need not convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty, but rather merely present some credible evidence to justify the imprisonment. But the MCA denied even habeas rights to detainees.

Only once the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 2008 decision bearing Boumediene’s name, ruled that this habeas-denying provision of the MCA was unconstitutional, and that Guantanamo detainees were entitled to habeas corpus review, was the U.S. government finally required to show its evidence against Boumediene in an actual court. A Bush-43 appointed federal judge then ruled that there was no credible evidence to support the accusations against him, and he was finally released in May, 2009. Please first go read Boumediene’s short though gripping account of what this indefinite detention did to his life, and then consider the following points:

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/08/the_evils_of_indefinite_detention_and_those_wanting_to_de_prioritze_them/singleton/
 
Yea and the US want iran to release their spy while they celebrate 10 years of holding people without trial.

What a bunch of crap.
 
ON Wednesday, America’s detention camp at Guantánamo Bay will have been open for 10 years. For seven of them, I was held there without explanation or charge. During that time my daughters grew up without me. They were toddlers when I was imprisoned, and were never allowed to visit or speak to me by phone. Most of their letters were returned as “undeliverable,” and the few that I received were so thoroughly and thoughtlessly censored that their messages of love and support were lost.

Some American politicians say that people at Guantánamo are terrorists, but I have never been a terrorist. Had I been brought before a court when I was seized, my children’s lives would not have been torn apart, and my family would not have been thrown into poverty. It was only after the United States Supreme Court ordered the government to defend its actions before a federal judge that I was finally able to clear my name and be with them again.

I left Algeria in 1990 to work abroad. In 1997 my family and I moved to Bosnia and Herzegovina at the request of my employer, the Red Crescent Society of the United Arab Emirates. I served in the Sarajevo office as director of humanitarian aid for children who had lost relatives to violence during the Balkan conflicts. In 1998, I became a Bosnian citizen. We had a good life, but all of that changed after 9/11.

When I arrived at work on the morning of Oct. 19, 2001, an intelligence officer was waiting for me. He asked me to accompany him to answer questions. I did so, voluntarily — but afterward I was told that I could not go home. The United States had demanded that local authorities arrest me and five other men. News reports at the time said the United States believed that I was plotting to blow up its embassy in Sarajevo. I had never — for a second — considered this.

The fact that the United States had made a mistake was clear from the beginning. Bosnia’s highest court investigated the American claim, found that there was no evidence against me and ordered my release. But instead, the moment I was released American agents seized me and the five others. We were tied up like animals and flown to Guantánamo, the American naval base in Cuba. I arrived on Jan. 20, 2002.

I still had faith in American justice. I believed my captors would quickly realize their mistake and let me go. But when I would not give the interrogators the answers they wanted — how could I, when I had done nothing wrong? — they became more and more brutal. I was kept awake for many days straight. I was forced to remain in painful positions for hours at a time. These are things I do not want to write about; I want only to forget.

I went on a hunger strike for two years because no one would tell me why I was being imprisoned. Twice each day my captors would shove a tube up my nose, down my throat and into my stomach so they could pour food into me. It was excruciating, but I was innocent and so I kept up my protest.

In 2008, my demand for a fair legal process went all the way to America’s highest court. In a decision that bears my name, the Supreme Court declared that “the laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times.” It ruled that prisoners like me, no matter how serious the accusations, have a right to a day in court. The Supreme Court recognized a basic truth: the government makes mistakes. And the court said that because “the consequence of error may be detention of persons for the duration of hostilities that may last a generation or more, this is a risk too significant to ignore.”

Five months later, Judge Richard J. Leon, of the Federal District Court in Washington, reviewed all of the reasons offered to justify my imprisonment, including secret information I never saw or heard. The government abandoned its claim of an embassy bomb plot just before the judge could hear it. After the hearing, he ordered the government to free me and four other men who had been arrested in Bosnia.

I will never forget sitting with the four other men in a squalid room at Guantánamo, listening over a fuzzy speaker as Judge Leon read his decision in a Washington courtroom. He implored the government not to appeal his ruling, because “seven years of waiting for our legal system to give them an answer to a question so important is, in my judgment, more than plenty.” I was freed, at last, on May 15, 2009.

Today, I live in Provence with my wife and children. France has given us a home, and a new start. I have experienced the pleasure of reacquainting myself with my daughters and, in August 2010, the joy of welcoming a new son, Yousef. I am learning to drive, attending vocational training and rebuilding my life. I hope to work again serving others, but so far the fact that I spent seven and a half years as a Guantánamo prisoner has meant that only a few human rights organizations have seriously considered hiring me. I do not like to think of Guantánamo. The memories are filled with pain. But I share my story because 171 men remain there. Among them is Belkacem Bensayah, who was seized in Bosnia and sent to Guantánamo with me.

About 90 prisoners have been cleared for transfer out of Guantánamo. Some of them are from countries like Syria or China — where they would face torture if sent home — or Yemen, which the United States considers unstable. And so they sit as captives, with no end in sight — not because they are dangerous, not because they attacked America, but because the stigma of Guantánamo means they have no place to go, and America will not give a home to even one of them.

I’m told that my Supreme Court case is now read in law schools. Perhaps one day that will give me satisfaction, but so long as Guantánamo stays open and innocent men remain there, my thoughts will be with those left behind in that place of suffering and injustice.

Lakhdar Boumediene was the lead plaintiff in Boumediene v. Bush. He was in military custody at Guantánamo Bay from 2002 to 2009. This essay was translated by Felice Bezri from the Arabic.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/my-guantanamo-nightmare.html?_r=1&smid=fb-share

I do not understand how people can defend this. I truly do not understand.
 
If an American soldier is the biggest, bad-ass soldier around you don't go pissing against his Hum-vee's wheel in plain view. That might just land you in a prison without trial. Common sense people, common sense.
 
If an American soldier is the biggest, bad-ass soldier around you don't go pissing against his Hum-vee's wheel. That might just land you in a prison without trial. Common sense people, common sense.

Did you even read the story I posted, the guy was met out of the blue by an intelligence officer at his work in Bosnia, Bosnia's highest court cleared him of the charges, and he was released, rearrested by America, who then ruined his and his family's lives for 7 years, until the American government was forced by the Supreme Court to give him a chance to defend himself, at which point the government all of a sudden decided to drop the initial charge.

It is beyond pathetic that people brush these sorts of things off with 'The USA are bullies, get with the program guuuys'.

:sick:
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/my-guantanamo-nightmare.html?_r=1&smid=fb-share

I do not understand how people can defend this. I truly do not understand.

Come now Copa, we are the "good" guys and "they" are the "bad" guys. Isn't it obvious!

(That is until American citizens are hurt by Bush/Obama laws...then they'll understand why it is wrong.)

But Americans have a long tradition of suspending habeus corpus, including the liberals favourite Republican President, Abraham Lincoln who imprisoned American dissenters and political opponents.

Afterall, if you are not with us you are a f****** terrorist!
 
Come now Copa, we are the "good" guys and "they" are the "bad" guys. Isn't it obvious!

(That is until American citizens are hurt by Bush/Obama laws...then they'll understand why it is wrong.)

But Americans have a long tradition of suspending habeus corpus, including the liberals favourite Republican President, Abraham Lincoln who imprisoned American dissenters and political opponents.

Afterall, if you are not with us you are a f****** terrorist!

Yup also if you do not support the US you support terrorism and tyranny :D. You know those lame US supporters(not all are lame of course) have no argument when they tune you support tyrants :p
 
Amazing how such a small insignificant detention centre get a 10 year anniversary hoo-ha.
 
Amazing how such a small insignificant detention centre get a 10 year anniversary hoo-ha.

Yeah, we should rather keep these 'indefinite detention without trial' places a little more under the radar.

People might get upset by the gross human rights violations going on.
 
Yeah, we should rather keep these 'indefinite detention without trial' places a little more under the radar.

People might get upset by the gross human rights violations going on.

Sorry to break it to you but there are thousands of far larger prisons with far worse "human rights violations" than Gitmo around the world that get no attention at all.

Then again there is a distinct difference between having your rights violated by Americans than by anybody else :erm:
 
Sorry to break it to you but there are thousands of far larger prisons with far worse "human rights violations" than Gitmo around the world that get no attention at all.

Then again there is a distinct difference between having your rights violated by Americans than by anybody else :erm:

I didn't say there were not, did I?

This one is being run by the champions of freedom and democracy, which is why the torture, murder (possibly in Guantanamo, definitely in Bagram) and illegal indefinite detention probably stand out to people.
 
I didn't say there were not, did I?

Forgive me your laser like focus on a small island facility on a Cuban Island gave me the impression that perhaps you didn't know there were others :p


This one is being run by the champions of freedom and democracy, which is why the torture, murder (possibly in Guantanamo, definitely in Bagram) and illegal indefinite detention probably stand out to people.

So if they just dropped the whole "champions of freedom and democracy" thing you'd lose interest and it would no longer be an issue. Just another detention centre like the thousands scattered around the world that nobody pays any attention too.
 
Forgive me your laser like focus on a small island facility on a Cuban Island gave me the impression that perhaps you didn't know there were others :p

The thread is about Guantanamo Bay. :confused:

So if they just dropped the whole "champions of freedom and democracy" thing you'd lose interest and it would no longer be an issue. Just another detention centre like the thousands scattered around the world that nobody pays any attention too.

I was simply pointing out why it stands out, I was not saying it's right the rest are not paid as much attention to.
 
Forgive me your laser like focus on a small island facility on a Cuban Island gave me the impression that perhaps you didn't know there were others :p




So if they just dropped the whole "champions of freedom and democracy" thing you'd lose interest and it would no longer be an issue. Just another detention centre like the thousands scattered around the world that nobody pays any attention too.

Yup if the US just admitted they are no better than the people they claim to be bad they could get away with anything but when you claim to be better and claim to care about human rights surely it is logical a place like that will get attention.

Basically alan you have just said that the US is no better than the people they claim to be bad, now if only we could get obama to say the same thing instead of going on about human rights and freedom.
 
The thread is about Guantanamo Bay. :confused:

Guantanamo Bay Naval base to be exact.

Which is situated on the southeastern end of an island called Cuba.

I was simply pointing out why it stands out, I was not saying it's right the rest are not paid as much attention to.

Yet you pay absolutely no attention to those other places. Heard of Evin Prison?
 
Guantanamo Bay Naval base to be exact.

Which is situated on the southeastern end of an island called Cuba.

Thanks, I'm sure being pedantic is more important than the point I was making, which I'm sure you grasped. :rolleyes:

Yet you pay absolutely no attention to those other places. Heard of Evin Prison?

Nope, although I have just googled it.

Relevance? I've not remotely made the case that I'm condoning the existence of these other prisons, if they are so important to you then speak out about them, stop bitching at me for having an opinion about America's behaviour.
 
Relevance? I've not remotely made the case that I'm condoning the existence of these other prisons, if they are so important to you then speak out about them, stop bitching at me for having an opinion about America's behaviour.

I just find it odd these "human rights violations" that occur on a far greater scale at these other detention centres receive no attention yet little old Gitmo causes a **** storm. It's illogical to me at least.
 
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