Article: Obama wins

Techne said:
Still promising that... what was it, 5-6% jobless rate?
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One helleva improvement for those of us not living on Bull**** mountain.

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Techne said:
4 more years!...
of more lies
Unbalanced budget
Increased American debt
Increased dependence of American individuals on government handouts
false hope etc.

Not that Romney would have done any better (probably worse IMO). I suppose America had to pick one turd over another :erm:.
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Yeah let's celebrate for 4 more years of driving the United States of America downhill into the dirt.
4 more years of destroying the middle class
4 more years of increased debt
4 more years of increased war (yes it will increase)
4 more years of increased tyranny (NDAA, CISPA)
4 more years of food stamps

It amazes me at all the idiots waving their red and white flags at 4 more years of driving a nail into the coffin of democracy and destroying the US economy.
 
Telkomisaloser said:
Four more years of holidays for Obama
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Calls to several Presidential libraries reveal that President Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, was on vacation more — 1,020 days — than any U.S. President since Herbert Hoover and possibly more than any other President in history.

Even President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was in office 12 years from 1933 to 1945, was on vacation less days than President Bush at 958 days. Calls to several Presidential Libraries reveal that no President can come close to Bush’s 1,020 days on vacation in an 8 year period. Even Lyndon Johnson, who spent 484 days at his ranch in Texas and at Camp David during his presidency, came in under Bush’s vacation time. Some claim the cost of Bush’s frequent trips to Crawford, Texas cost taxpayers upwards of $20 million, but the numbers are hard to confirm.

A recession started in 2001 as Bush took office after 22 million jobs were created during the Clinton Administration from 1993 to 2000. Bush began wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and presided over the loss of 4 million jobs. The debt when Bush left office was $10.6 trillion. In 2005, the Washington Post noted President Bush’s frequent vacations in a piece titled Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record as Bush took the longest single vacation — 5 weeks — of any President in 36 years.


President Obama has been on vacation 78 days from 2009 to 2011. At the three year mark into their first terms, George W. Bush spent 180 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas and Ronald Reagan spent 112 vacation days at his ranch in California. Of course, staff was around all three Presidents on vacations and all White House aides argue that the commander-in-chief is never “out of touch” with work.
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Really?
 
Obama is no longer a lame duck so his policies should be easier or am i mistaken can he still get blocked?

I know there is some election two years into his term that means he can become a lame duck but for the next two years does he have freedom to do what he wants?
 
killadoob said:
Obama is no longer a lame duck so his policies should be easier or am i mistaken can he still get blocked?

I know there is some election two years into his term that means he can become a lame duck but for the next two years does he have freedom to do what he wants?
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I dont think he has the house. So he might be a lame duck. The Republicans can still filibuster him like they have been doing AFAIK.
 
ghoti said:
I dont think he has the house. So he might be a lame duck. The Republicans can still filibuster him like they have been doing AFAIK.
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No, he doesn't have the House. More bad news is that the moderate Reps in the House have been replaced by hardliners.
 
marine1 said:
Lol, lets see what the future holds and come back here in another few years and see what the great Obama has done for the world :rolleyes:
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i think you're the last person who should be making predictions :)
 
thestaggy said:
No, he doesn't have the House. More bad news is that the moderate Reps in the House have been replaced by hardliners.
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There is going to be a massive fight now for the "soul" of the GOP now, and I think the hard-liners are going to win. This will destroy the GOP big time.
 
ghoti said:
There is going to be a massive fight now for the "soul" of the GOP now, and I think the hard-liners are going to win. This will destroy the GOP big time.
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I don't think so. Changing demographics means that the GOP has to pander to a base outside the norm. They'll have to consider moving to the left.
 
Randhir said:
I don't think so. Changing demographics means that the GOP has to pander to a base outside the norm. They'll have to consider moving to the left.
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I dont think the Teabaggers in the Tea Party will allow that.
 
ghoti said:
I dont think the Teabaggers in the Tea Party will allow that.
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They have no choice. The Democrats are cleaning them out with the black and hispanic votes. Not to mention the female vote*

As the voting populace gets younger and more accepting of change, the GOP has to adapt or it will become irrelevant.


*saw a tweet saying 'you know you have a problem when you say "the Republican rape guy lost" and still get asked "which Republican rape guy?"'
 
ghoti said:
I dont think the Teabaggers in the Tea Party will allow that.
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Well then they will need to split.

The Republican party as we know it is one whose time has gone. It has little appeal to the youth and even less to the black/latino/hispanic community.

If it wants to remain a bastion of verkramptes then it may as well saddle up and ride off into the sunset.
 
ghoti said:
There is going to be a massive fight now for the "soul" of the GOP now, and I think the hard-liners are going to win. This will destroy the GOP big time.
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Yeah, according to CNN's exit poll stats the Republican Party does not appeal to the younger generation. And I highly doubt the youth of today - which was overwhelmingly Obama - will change their voting patterns much. The GOP is going to have to tone it down to become relevant. They may still hold sway over the Bible Belt, but in the more progressive - and important areas as per electorate - they will fall behind by some margin.

Who knows, maybe the slow death of the GOP may spark interest in the others. For the life of me I don't know why the Libertarian Party is overlooked. They're as close to middle ground as you can get in the States.
 
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