Article: Two FHM Writers Fired

RaptorSA said:
I don't think anyone's saying they didn't screw up a bit from their side.
At most the outrage should've forced some kind of apology from them (and I won't blame them if they didn't even mean it, I'd tell everyone to f-themselves in my head the moment I walked away from that podium)... but FIRING these people is just wrong. Maybe they're a-holes or whatever, but this isn't and never will be cool.
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It's the way it works unfortunately, if you sign a contract to be a representative of that company whatever you say in public domain that can tarnish the image of that company can be a clause in the contract that results in termination. Given that one chap's blog I'm surprised he wasn't gone already but it highlights probably how unnoticed he was before this was blown up by the blogosphere.
 
Ask yourself this, is Facebook legally considered a public platform according to our local laws? If yes, then their firing was fair, if no? Then they are going to be able to sue.
 
sorry but what they said on facebook was in poor taste. i think they got what was coming to them. it's like someone commenting about murdering someone. look at what happened to that teen who joked about going to shoot people as a joke. who knows if they are rapists or murderers or not. too many people suffering at the hands of rapists and murderers and if you want to randomly "joke" about things like this, especially on a public platform, then you must suffer the consequences because people are on edge these days.
 
Fudzy said:
What private conversation?
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FHM writers claim the facebook settings was set to "friends only" on their personal facebook accounts. If this is true its very much a private comment. Are you suggesting that employers may fire you for coments made that were intended to be private? Can a company with a public profile to maintain go through your private Facebook comments and fire you if they disagree with anything you may have posted there?
 
Celine said:
sorry but what they said on facebook was in poor taste. i think they got what was coming to them. it's like someone commenting about murdering someone. look at what happened to that teen who joked about going to shoot people as a joke. who knows if they are rapists or murderers or not. too many people suffering at the hands of rapists and murderers and if you want to randomly "joke" about things like this, especially on a public platform, then you must suffer the consequences because people are on edge these days.
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We should throw all comedians in jail if they offend us?
 
Celine said:
sorry but what they said on facebook was in poor taste. i think they got what was coming to them. it's like someone commenting about murdering someone.
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Now this is what i'd like to see in tomorrows newspaper! :rolleyes:


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MAN GETS FIRED FOR POSTING "TELEMARKETERS SHOULD BE SHOT" ON FACEBOOK
In other news, Jeff Dunham has been fired from comedy central for making his puppet shout "I kill you!"
Jeff Dunham (born April 18, 1962) is an American ventriloquist and stand-up comedian who has also appeared on numerous television shows, including Late Show with David Letterman, Comedy Central Presents,
The Tonight Show and Sonny With a Chance. He has five specials that run on Comedy Central: Jeff Dunham: Arguing with Myself, Jeff Dunham: Spark of Insanity, Jeff Dunham's Very Special Christmas Special, Jeff
Dunham: Controlled Chaos and Jeff Dunham: Minding the Monsters. Dunham also starred in The Jeff Dunham Show, a series on the network in 2009.[1] His style has been described as "a dressed-down, more
digestible version of Don Rickles with multiple personality disorder".[2] Describing his characters, Time observes, "All of them are politically incorrect, gratuitously insulting and ill tempered."[3] Dunham has been
credited with reviving ventriloquism,[4] and doing more to promote the art form than anyone since Edgar Bergen.[1] Dunham has been called "America's favorite comedian" by Slate.com, and according to the
concert industry publication Pollstar, he is the top-grossing standup act in North America, and is among the most successful acts in Europe as well. As of November 2009, he has sold over four million DVDs, an
additional $7 million in merchandise sales,[5] and received more than 350 million hits on YouTube as of October 2009 (his introduction of Achmed the Dead Terrorist in Spark of Insanity was ranked as the ninth most
watched YouTube video at the time).[1] A Very Special Christmas Special was the most-watched telecast in Comedy Central history, with its DVD going quadruple platinum (selling over 400,000) in its first two
weeks.[6] Forbes.com ranked Dunham as the third highest-paid comedian in the United States behind Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock,[5] and reported that he was one of the highest-earning comics from June 2008
to June 2009, earning approximately $30 million during that period
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One thing's for sure - FHM ain't what it used to be - from the 90's anyway.

I recall the first time I came across the mag.
On Kibbutz, an English kid that was volunteering with me had his subscription posted to Israel so he could still get his fix.
Bear in mind as an 18 year old, I'd never come across it in my time.
One day he passed it over to me and I got to oogling over the pics and then started reading - will never forget the coolest/out-there feature I've ever read in my time; where a journo and a photographer went on the set of a porn movie shot in a chateau in France.

It was out there, fun, fscked up and everything one could expect.

When FHM eventually made its way to our shores - it started out in the same vane.
Then they got soft, geeky and mundane.

I've seen worse things mentioned by Brendan Cooper and his predecessor's Editorial letters - what these guys said meant no harm.
Yes its crass. But find me a comedian, a friend or colleague in your circle that doesn't get a smile out of even the Mormon-like in your crew when bantering BS.

Fired? Not deserved I think.
But that's the double edged world of being PC at a trendy Guy magazine.
You get hired for being a funny troll and then get fired for the same reason. :rolleyes:

EDIT: As a sign of useless solidarity with these okes, I'm happy to let someone else buy me this wicked pillow case from this online store.
 
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RaptorSA said:
****ing ridiculous.
I hope everyone who supports this insanity drowns in their own politically correct turd soup.
Did we actually help one single rape victim in this craphole by doing this? How does this transform our society in any way with regards to the rape epidemic in this country? Apparently censoring a rape joke and firing the people involved is the average person's preferred way of dealing with this. But noo.. when a real case of rape or whatever hit's the new all you see is a few "OMG! Shame" comments....

Democracy, we're doing it wrong. :erm:
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****ing this
 
Let's all be honest here, who is most affected by rape? Women. So in judging the appropriateness of this 'joke' it is the opinion of women that matter, not men. I haven't been following this story online too much (in terms of comments, etc.), but the little I have seen hasn't shown too many women defending these journalists. As a man, your assessment of 'harmless' in this case is invalidated through the mere fact that you are less likely to be a victim of rape. Context does not change this either, and it is worth noting that many comedians have recently come under harsh criticism for making rape jokes - the common thread being that all of these comedians were men.

As for honestly believing that anything you WRITE being a 'private conversation' in this day and age is laughable. To start off with, this comment was made on Facebook, a SOCIAL NETWORK. Regardless of your privacy settings you are making these comments publicly, to a large audience. Max has over 800 'friends', having a 'private conversation' with 800 friends is akin to having a town hall meeting in a small village. Not to mention that I can 'follow' him without actually 'friending' him, or the fact that any of his 'friends' could easily share his post or take a screen dump taking his private conversation public - as happened in a manner of speaking.

A small, intimate and verbal conversation is private - anything you write in an e-mail or anywhere on the internet, is public. Just because laws have not caught up with rapidly changing technology and networks does not mean they will still protect you.
 
2012 said:
FHM writers claim the facebook settings was set to "friends only" on their personal facebook accounts. If this is true its very much a private comment. Are you suggesting that employers may fire you for coments made that were intended to be private? Can a company with a public profile to maintain go through your private Facebook comments and fire you if they disagree with anything you may have posted there?
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Facebook. Is. Not. Private.

Even if you have all the settings on full and no friends.
 
Fudzy said:
Facebook. Is. Not. Private.

Even if you have all the settings on full and no friends.
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Emails are not private then either, nor letters. Anything you put into text can be used against you
 
Keeper said:
I'd be happy the day my boss fires me for making a bad facebook joke, because that would be the day I bend him over a barrel and take him for everything his company is worth.

It's not against the law to cause offense.
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One can be fired for any action that brings your company's name into disrepute, including actions outside of work hours. One can also be fired if you act in such a way that permanently strains the trust between employer and employee. All of this is standard contract stuff, not a legal issue and there is very little legal recourse in these cases...
 
DJ... said:
not a legal issue and there is very little legal recourse in these cases...
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unless of course, it was unjust. Then it is a legal issue and there is legal recourse. :erm:

You can't just fire people, you have to "prove dem things"
 
Keeper said:
unless of course, it was unjust. Then it is a legal issue and there is legal recourse. :erm:

You can't just fire people, you have to "prove dem things"
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Did you read the first part of his post?
 
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