Australia 0, Obama 1

alan - may be time to insert the word "EXTREME" before Mental Anguish in your sig...maybe the Warning bit in bolded red


no offence meant
standard disclaimers apply
i am especially not in the least perturbed by your age
or lack thereof
:D
 
:confused: So you have been out of school for 3 years (if you didn't drop out) and you act like you know more about life than someone who is 30+....

You never experienced the full power of the CNE system or were even really mentally astute enough to understand any of the horrors of Apartheid or Angolan wars.

I am shocked at your arrogance but I should know better, 21 year olds know everything.

Thanks for clearing that up, I now know never to get into a real conversation with you again. No wonder you have no idea what socialism is or can debate it logically.
Well he acts more mature than most of the people here. So you are discriminating against him because of his age? Real mature.
 
Kindly move the is age as prerequisite for <fill in the blank> discussion over to the philosophical debates section should you wish to continue it.
 
Your just sore because you have the maturity of a 21 year old :D...

You got the 21 back to front :D

Personally I thought Obama made a great candidate, but after taking cover from the flak he got after his wasted remark I'm not sure what to think of the man

"Even as I said it, I realized I had misspoken," Obama said. "It is not at all what I intended to say, and I would absolutely apologize if any (military families) felt that in some ways it had diminished the enormous courage and sacrifice that they'd shown."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/13/obama.apology.ap/index.html

I would have had great respect if he defended himself, but that just seemed cowardice to me
 
You got the 21 back to front :D

Last time I promise... I actually didn't have it the wrong way around. I was insinuating that our 30+ plus friend had the same maturity as alan...

Personally I thought Obama made a great candidate, but after taking cover from the flak he got after his wasted remark I'm not sure what to think of the man

Yeah but you have to remember how warmongering the citizens of the States are and how quickly they jump on your back... I'll still give him some leeway but I doubt he will last long. To many people against him.
 
Yeah they respect those willing to sacrifice so much for their fellow citizens.

Respecting your veterans and current soldiers is fantastic and in my opinion something that everyone should always do.

However when you refuse to listen to opposing opinions just because you are currently at war then you are on a slippery slope. You have to be able to criticise and the opposing side has to be open to it otherwise democracy is destroyed and fascism rules.
 
Last time I promise... I actually didn't have it the wrong way around. I was insinuating that our 30+ plus friend had the same maturity as alan...

I know, just that I'm 24 and know guys who are 21 who would take offense at being compared to marine :D

Yeah but you have to remember how warmongering the citizens of the States are and how quickly they jump on your back... I'll still give him some leeway but I doubt he will last long. To many people against him.

I do understand that he needs to keep mainstream America on his side, but a person either makes a point and defends it or not make the point at all.
For eg. I do feel that my "cowardice" remark was harsh, but that's how I felt at the time

Not sure about how long he'll last but considering who he's up against, I see no reason why he should not be Pres. of the US. I myself have never been a fan of the guy, but I do believe that he'll be good for Africa-America relations
 
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