AXXESS Static IP Setup ?

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I though that this was going to be easy ...:whistling:
Using the old DYNAMIC setup all worked like a charm

I have had a look on the Axxess website but there does not appear to be a guide for doing this ?
Googled a bit and had a look at the old posts here ( still the old L2TP method )

Anyone had success in setting this up and is using an AXXESS static IP ?

How and what did you do ?

First off -- all that you are given is ONE IP address -- NO subnet mask ?
IS this meant to be an /32 ? ( 255.255.255.255 )
Will not work on a PPPoE Dialer interface ?
Always some SNAFU ..

:confused::crying:;)
 
Openserve?
When I was on them they just NAT you out that IP through their network.
The IP doesn't actually sit on your router.
 
MDKza said:
Openserve?
When I was on them they just NAT you out that IP through their network.
The IP doesn't actually sit on your router.
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Sounds very -- kludgy
Not sure I would pay for something like that
I am not quite sure how you route IF the IP is not on your router ?
(Wierd kinds of NAT -- Not the way Cisco works )
An IP on it;s own means nothing -- it HAS TO be -- routed

I have a suspicion Axxess is different

I might be mistaken BUT it would appear that the "backend" of many of these ISP's all work on VM machines running Linux and OSS ( MUCH cheaper that way )
Telkom I know does have / use Cisco routers !

Code: 
#sh ip route
Codes: L - local, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2
ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static route
o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route, H - NHRP, l - LISP
+ - replicated route, % - next hop override

Gateway of last resort is 0.0.0.0 to network 0.0.0.0

S* 0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Dialer3
is directly connected, Dialer2
is directly connected, Dialer1

41.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C 41.170.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer3

102.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C 102.65.142.193 is directly connected, Dialer2
C 102.65.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer2

105.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C 105.184.88.1 is directly connected, Dialer1
C 105.225.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer1

165.255.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C 165.255.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer3
You will notice that one IP address is that of the router you are connecting to
The other is the IP address DYNAMICALLY allocated to you
 
/32 IP is not an issue....

Not sure if it has changed, but all you do is "activate" the static IP under your portal, reboot router and it should assign that IP to your router when it connects, DHCP should not be changed to static, leave on DHCP....

Unless that has changed....
 
irBosOtter said:
/32 IP is not an issue....
Not sure if it has changed, but all you do is "activate" the static IP under your portal, reboot router and it should assign that IP to your router when it connects, DHCP should not be changed to static, leave on DHCP....
Unless that has changed....
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What you are describing is a "nailed-up" assigned IP NOT a proper STATIC IP ( as I understand it )
Yep I rebooted using the normal Dynamic setup IPCP -- BUT the "static" IP was NOT assigned
Every time a do a shut / no shut the IP is dynamically changed

/32 IS an issue when the dialler does NOT accept that subnet -- when entered MANUALLY
I am not working with a -- switch on / switch off router
The whole point of STATIC is that the IP does not change ( the corollary of DHCP )
If left on "DHCP" your IP is dependant on how long the lease is set for

Perhaps you can explain the difference between DHCP and IPCP ( they both "push" configuration to the client )
 
MidnightWizard said:
What you are describing is a "nailed-up" assigned IP NOT a proper STATIC IP ( as I understand it )
Yep I rebooted using the normal Dynamic setup IPCP -- BUT the "static" IP was NOT assigned
Every time a do a shut / no shut the IP is dynamically changed

/32 IS an issue when the dialler does NOT accept that subnet -- when entered MANUALLY
I am not working with a -- switch on / switch off router
The whole point of STATIC is that the IP does not change ( the corollary of DHCP )
If left on "DHCP" your IP is dependant on how long the lease is set for

Perhaps you can explain the difference between DHCP and IPCP ( they both "push" configuration to the client )
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Last year a friend took up that static IP service and all he needed to do was reboot in order for the new "static" IP to be assigned to his router.

You can still call it a static IP seeing it's then never supposed to change... but yes, not static in the sense that you remove DHCP option and assign it yourself....

Maybe give them a call and ask what are you supposed to do, but only one IP tells me they are going to reserve that IP and auto assign to the router or else they would have given you a /30 obviously
 
MidnightWizard said:
What you are describing is a "nailed-up" assigned IP NOT a proper STATIC IP ( as I understand it )
Yep I rebooted using the normal Dynamic setup IPCP -- BUT the "static" IP was NOT assigned
Every time a do a shut / no shut the IP is dynamically changed

/32 IS an issue when the dialler does NOT accept that subnet -- when entered MANUALLY
I am not working with a -- switch on / switch off router
The whole point of STATIC is that the IP does not change ( the corollary of DHCP )
If left on "DHCP" your IP is dependant on how long the lease is set for

Perhaps you can explain the difference between DHCP and IPCP ( they both "push" configuration to the client )
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They assign an IP within the 10.0.0.0/8 range via DHCP, and they NAT the static IP to the dynamic IP. This only happens if you enabled the static IP address on their console. You can set the Static IP as a secondary IP on the PPP interface (while still accepting the DHCP IP address). Remember to use their DNS, I have had issues before where their static IP's won't route to me if I don't use their DNS. That is how it worked last time I tried it about a year ago, so not sure if it changed. The static IP doesn't change, only the DHCP IP changes.
 
irBosOtter said:
Maybe give them a call and ask what are you supposed to do, but only one IP tells me they are going to reserve that IP and auto assign to the router or else they would have given you a /30 obviously
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Thanks
Sent mail to support early this morning
NO reply so far -- seems everyone is scared of "real" routers and "real" networking :)
My Googling is failing me -- but - I have a couple of ideas and will try them.
 
Genisys said:
They assign an IP within the 10.0.0.0/8 range via DHCP, and they NAT the static IP to the dynamic IP. This only happens if you enabled the static IP address on their console. You can set the Static IP as a secondary IP on the PPP interface (while still accepting the DHCP IP address). Remember to use their DNS, I have had issues before where their static IP's won't route to me if I don't use their DNS. That is how it worked last time I tried it about a year ago, so not sure if it changed. The static IP doesn't change, only the DHCP IP changes.
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Sounds like a real royal mess
The IP I have been allocated is in the 165.255 range
IF it is this much hassle then I do not need it -- although it would be interesting to get it to work ..
 
MidnightWizard said:
Sounds like a real royal mess
The IP I have been allocated is in the 165.255 range
IF it is this much hassle then I do not need it -- although it would be interesting to get it to work ..
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I canceled. The IP addresses are useful and usable, there isn't any issues with it. Just didn't have a use for it with 1Mbps upload.
 
I changed ISP's and mine doesn't offer this so I just used DDNS instead, I then did a CNAME from my hostname on my domain I own to my DDNS name. Everything works the same.
 
Genisys said:
They assign an IP within the 10.0.0.0/8 range via DHCP, and they NAT the static IP to the dynamic IP. This only happens if you enabled the static IP address on their console. You can set the Static IP as a secondary IP on the PPP interface (while still accepting the DHCP IP address). Remember to use their DNS, I have had issues before where their static IP's won't route to me if I don't use their DNS. That is how it worked last time I tried it about a year ago, so not sure if it changed. The static IP doesn't change, only the DHCP IP changes.
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OK
AHA -- you are correct

It now works
Checked my PUBLIC IP on the Internet via an IP lookup website -- it corresponds

This is what happens.....

Code: 
#sh ip route

Codes: L - local, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
       D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
       N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
       E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
       i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2
       ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static route
       o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route, H - NHRP, l - LISP
       + - replicated route, % - next hop override

Gateway of last resort is 0.0.0.0 to network 0.0.0.0

S*    0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Dialer3
           10.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C        10.10.10.10 is directly connected, Loopback0
C        10.230.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer3
      41.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C        41.170.75.161 is directly connected, Dialer3

      192.168.12.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
C        192.168.12.0/24 is directly connected, Vlan12
L        192.168.12.1/32 is directly connected, Vlan12
10.10.10.10 was always my Loopback interface

Excuse my IP rusty memory about public and private address space
Range from 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 — a 10.0.0.0 network with a 255.0.0.0 or an /8 (8-bit) mask
IF I am correct then 10.230.xxx.xxx is PRIVATE address space ?

So what is actually happening here is that the router is being given a PRIVATE IP address from the initial direct connection to the ISP "router" [ ip address negotiated IPCP ] -- this is then being NATTED out on to the Internet.
and
I am still using the ISP ESSR gateway .... 41.170.75.161

Interesting the PUBLIC IP shows as .ip.adsl.co.za = AFRIHOST ASN: 37611

Happy days are here again ..... :thumbsup:

EDIT ;
MORE experimenting -- NAT POOLS ..... :D
 
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MDKza said:
I changed ISP's and mine doesn't offer this so I just used DDNS instead, I then did a CNAME from my hostname on my domain I own to my DDNS name. Everything works the same.
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Thanks
Another interesting way of doing it
IF I understand correctly this was just for a single IP -- just for your website ?
 
funny info, was told mweb offers a static ip for r1400/month and only on adsl ...lol
 
MidnightWizard said:
Thanks
Another interesting way of doing it
IF I understand correctly this was just for a single IP -- just for your website ?
Click to expand...

I used it to VPN to my house - still do, just use a name now.
The domain name cost me like 100 something rand a year.
My NAS internally does the DDNS connection.
 
MidnightWizard said:
OK
AHA -- you are correct

It now works
Checked my PUBLIC IP on the Internet via an IP lookup website -- it corresponds

This is what happens.....

Code: 
#sh ip route

Codes: L - local, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
       D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
       N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
       E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2
       i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2
       ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static route
       o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route, H - NHRP, l - LISP
       + - replicated route, % - next hop override

Gateway of last resort is 0.0.0.0 to network 0.0.0.0

S*    0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Dialer3
           10.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 2 subnets
C        10.10.10.10 is directly connected, Loopback0
C        10.230.xxx.xxx is directly connected, Dialer3
      41.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C        41.170.75.161 is directly connected, Dialer3

      192.168.12.0/24 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks
C        192.168.12.0/24 is directly connected, Vlan12
L        192.168.12.1/32 is directly connected, Vlan12
10.10.10.10 was always my Loopback interface

Excuse my IP rusty memory about public and private address space
Range from 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 — a 10.0.0.0 network with a 255.0.0.0 or an /8 (8-bit) mask
IF I am correct then 10.230.xxx.xxx is PRIVATE address space ?

So what is actually happening here is that the router is being given a PRIVATE IP address from the initial direct connection to the ISP "router" [ ip address negotiated IPCP ] -- this is then being NATTED out on to the Internet.
and
I am still using the ISP ESSR gateway .... 41.170.75.161

Interesting the PUBLIC IP shows as .ip.adsl.co.za = AFRIHOST ASN: 37611

Happy days are here again ..... :thumbsup:

EDIT ;
MORE experimenting -- NAT POOLS ..... :D
Click to expand...

yup, came across this the other day after mentioning it here. saw the wan interface with the 10 range ip but they had a public ip belonging to the isp.

the problem is, this public ip is registered as being in a dynamic pool... which is highly problematic in some instances
 
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