Bad Driving thread

[Düber]

LOL!

ABS works independent of speed. You can be doing 200ks or 10ks per hour. If it detects the wheels are slipping it kicks in.

Don't want to derail much more, but you are right, ABS works at any speed, what it does is it works out the speed differential between its sensors and corrects it by manipulating pressures within certain parameters.

More info.( Point 13)
https://www.liveabout.com/abs-brakes-and-the-facts-281470

When the ABS is broken and decides to work until a standstill it makes for an uncomfortable driving experience.
https://www.picoauto.com/library/case-studies/low-speed-abs-fault

 

[Düber]

ABS will kick in if your wheels slip. That's its core job and will work every time unless your system is defective. If it's "bitey" then that's a result of the car you are driving - it has nothing to do with the system.

But thats exactly what I said???
The "biteyness" I refered to was that the last bit of braking happens so fast you are unlikely to lock up which is by design.

 

[genetic]

Don't want to derail much more, but you are right, ABS works at any speed, what it does is it works out the speed differential between its sensors and corrects it by manipulating pressures within certain parameters.

More info.( Point 13)
https://www.liveabout.com/abs-brakes-and-the-facts-281470

When the ABS is broken and decides to work until a standstill it makes for an uncomfortable driving experience.
https://www.picoauto.com/library/case-studies/low-speed-abs-fault

Good! Glad you did some research and proved his point.

 

[genetic]

But thats exactly what I said???
The "biteyness" I refered to was that the last bit of braking happens so fast you are unlikely to lock up which is by design.

You have drifted so far from your original argument that you are confusing yourself.

ABS will prevent locking of the wheels at a speed of over 40Km/h, but under that it is effectively disabled and the wheels would lock up (but you are generally stopped by then.)

ABS always works... no matter the speed and conditions. It's within its inherent design.

 

[genetic]

But thats exactly what I said???
The "biteyness" I refered to was that the last bit of braking happens so fast you are unlikely to lock up which is by design.

You can be travelling at 3km/h and slam on brakes, the wheels won't lock. They call it Anti-Lock Braking. If it happens, it happens within fractions of a second. The wheels don't lock under ABS. It's as simple as that.

 

[Düber]

You can be travelling at 3km/h and the wheels won't lock

Your car would never get to a standstill then.
The second link I gave was when it went wrong and did modulate at low speed.

You are right I did get the speed wrong, thanks for keeping me honest.

Let's not derail any more( we could open a thread if you like) and get back to outing our atrocious drivers.

 

[The_Librarian]

So what is the best way to test ABS without waiting for an accident to happen?

 

[genetic]

So what is the best way to test ABS without waiting for an accident to happen?

Slam on the brakes with no one behind.

 

[The_Librarian]

Slam on the brakes with no one behind.

Yeah, but what sort of road?

 

[genetic]

Your car would never get to a standstill then.
The second link I gave was when it went wrong and did modulate at low speed.

You are right I did get the speed wrong, thanks for keeping me honest.

Let's not derail any more( we could open a thread if you like) and get back to outing our atrocious drivers.

Really???

Your car would never get to a standstill then.

Physics? You understand it? This may be a shock to you, but your car can come to a standstill without your wheels locking.

We'd alleviate derailing this thread if your basic understanding of physics were intact... but clearly its not.

 

[genetic]

Yeah, but what sort of road?

Any normal tarred road??

If you want to talk dirt roads, then we might as well deflect and add any soap coated roads too.

 

[Düber]

From a BMW E46 owners manual.

Braking with ABS The system becomes operative once the vehicle exceeds a speed of approx. 6 mph (10 km/h). Below approx. 4 mph (6 km/h), it is once again deactivated. This means that the wheels can lock in the final phase of a panic stop – a factor of no significance in actual use.

https://www.quora.com/Will-ABS-work...-considering-wheel-lock-happens-at-that-speed ( yes I know it's Quora)

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/972397/Suzuki-Swift.html?page=136#manual at the top of the page.

If you want to talk dirt roads, then we might as well deflect and add any soap coated roads too.

Rain on a tar road is also a good use example.

 

[Ivan Leon]

To miss CA 786-915 in your BMW

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Im here to help you with some pointers

1st up, you need to work on your lane changing skills. For one, you cant somme Jass turn into a lane as you feel like it, If you did not notice you almost hit my car in the middle on the side, i would assume this is because you where too busy on your cute little iPhone to check if there was actually a space for you to change into, I mean for what other reason would anyone pull such a stupid Cnt move, right?
Also there is this cute little thingy on the side of your steering wheel called an Indicator, this is to notify other road users who do not drive a BMW that you are planning to change your lane (bonus tip, switch on this indicator BEFORE you change lanes)

and finally, when you do this in traffic do not be surprised when that very same person later cuts you off You seemed so surprised when I looked up in my rear view mirror, the look on your face was absolutely priceless. Im still trying to decode the sign language you where giving me for the next 9 Kilometers in traffic either that or you wanted me to see something up in the sky?

I think what Im trying to say is, Dont be a Do0s... Be Lekke instead. Were all on the same N1 in the same traffic on the way home too. your BM does not give you special rights at all, the sales guy lied.

 

[genetic]

From a BMW E46 owners manual.


https://www.quora.com/Will-ABS-work...-considering-wheel-lock-happens-at-that-speed ( yes I know it's Quora)

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/972397/Suzuki-Swift.html?page=136#manual at the top of the page.


Rain on a tar road is also a good use example.

 

[Rouxenator]

You forgot CJ

Look, no one can beat CW vs CG when it comes to bad driving.

Most CJ drivers will just tell you it must be a Franschoek driver if you tell them about bad CJ driving.

 

[ubercal]

 

[mahsuri]

From a BMW E46 owners manual.


https://www.quora.com/Will-ABS-work...-considering-wheel-lock-happens-at-that-speed ( yes I know it's Quora)

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/972397/Suzuki-Swift.html?page=136#manual at the top of the page.


Rain on a tar road is also a good use example.

You just don't get it, do you?

 

[genetic]

You just don't get it, do you?

Ice affects ABS too. Lets throw in more variables which have nothing to do with normal breaking at all....

 

[The_Librarian]

Ice affects ABS too. Lets throw in more variables which have nothing to do with normal breaking at all....

Oooh! Black ice!! My favourite!

Wanna see a lot of taxis doing their schtuff on black ice!

So glad we're not in that sort of climate.

 

[Rickster]

Saw a beat up BMW E36 on the highway the other day, one of the shocks appeared to be fuct and the car was bouncing around the lane doing ~100KM/h. Scary sh*t.

Tried to make a voice note for the reg plate with google but that failed.