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This may belong in current affairs, so mods feel free to move it.

SAFA's contract with the SABC ends on 31 March 2011, so the Egpyt match on 26 March is the last match on the contract. The SABC haven't exactly been the perfet TV partner, only showing matches after Generations, even if it's delayed live. The also force home matches to be played after Generations, and don't have build up programs for weeknight games. Lately the didn't show the Sierra Leone match. The contract is also not making much money for SAFA, with them needing to pay the SABC R 700 000 worth of production costs for each match.

Bafana games could cost SABC R1bn

The SA Football Association (Safa) are demanding a whopping R1-billion from the SABC for the right to broadcast Bafana Bafana matches for the next five years.

The national team's current deal with the public broadcaster is worth a measly R150-million and ends on March 31. Under the current terms, Safa also has to pay the SABC R700 000 worth of production costs for every match Bafana plays.

Safa and the SABC are meeting weekly as negotiations intensify and both parties have agreed to form three-man task teams to iron out the issues.

While the SABC are represented by head of sport Sizwe Nzimande, acting CEO Robin Nicholson and spokesman Kaizer Kganyago, Safa are still finalising their negotiating team.

Kganyago confirmed they had met with Safa to deal with the issue and thrash out the finer details.

"Our target is March 31 and we hope everything will have been finalised. There is no animosity between us and Safa as reported in the media and we are confident that we will renew our contract," said Kganyago.

He refused to elaborate on whether the deal included other national teams. "I cannot divulge more because the negotiations are still ongoing but everything is going very well."

After being pipped by SuperSport to the Premier Soccer League (PSL) rights in 2007, the SABC have emerged as the frontrunner for the exclusive rights to Bafana Bafana matches.

SuperSport - who paid R1.6-billion for the PSL rights in 2007 - can get a sub-licence from the SABC that will allow them to show the matches live in South Africa.

When the PSL awarded SuperSport the rights, it was initially feared the move would deprive the bulk of South Africa's soccer fans of the opportunity to watch their favourite teams on television.

Parliament's sports portfolio committee chairman Butana Kompela criticised the deal, going so far as to say "it would be a sad day for soccer fans" if matches were exclusively flighted on the pay channel.

The PSL had turned to other bidders, including free-to-air television channel e.tv, after having had no joy with the SABC.

Then-SuperSport International CEO Imtiaz Patel pledged at the time the deal would not deprive the multitude of soccer fans completely.

"SuperSport has every intention of, and is committed to, working with the public broadcaster and/or e.tv to ensure that a substantial portion of local soccer is available on free-to-air television."
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I can see Supersport looking to swoop in and grab these rights, it would be a huge addition to their stable. AS for the SABC, I'm all for them getting a sub licence, or paying up for the rights. What should be included though, the right to move Generations, how the **** can a soapie dictate national sports matches' times? Also, whoever gets the rights should be forced to accuire the rights to all away matches, and show them live. We also need more advertising in the week leading up a match, and also at least 30 minutes of build up before matches.
 
Aren't the SABC running at a loss of a couple hundred million a year. Now they will need to fork out an extra 850 million rand to renew their soccer contract. Exactly how do they expect to become profittable - I guess the 1% extra tax will be implemented afterall
 
(@) (@) twister said:
Aren't the SABC running at a loss of a couple hundred million a year. Now they will need to fork out an extra 850 million rand to renew their soccer contract. Exactly how do they expect to become profittable - I guess the 1% extra tax will be implemented afterall
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Correctly packaged, marketed and presented, they can actually make money off this deal. But if they keep putting Generations above games coupled with horrible production then no one's going to want to buy in or watch the trash. They used something like 2 cameras for the one bafana game in PE last year, pathetic.
 
cr@zydude said:
This may belong in current affairs, so mods feel free to move it.

SAFA's contract with the SABC ends on 31 March 2011, so the Egpyt match on 26 March is the last match on the contract. The SABC haven't exactly been the perfet TV partner, only showing matches after Generations, even if it's delayed live. The also force home matches to be played after Generations, and don't have build up programs for weeknight games. Lately the didn't show the Sierra Leone match. The contract is also not making much money for SAFA, with them needing to pay the SABC R 700 000 worth of production costs for each match.



Times Live

I can see Supersport looking to swoop in and grab these rights, it would be a huge addition to their stable. AS for the SABC, I'm all for them getting a sub licence, or paying up for the rights. What should be included though, the right to move Generations, how the **** can a soapie dictate national sports matches' times? Also, whoever gets the rights should be forced to accuire the rights to all away matches, and show them live. We also need more advertising in the week leading up a match, and also at least 30 minutes of build up before matches.
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It really is sad that generations could impact on it like it has. but the fact of the matter is that SABC make millions from people watching Generations. Do you know what the ad costs? it's around R150 000 per 30 second ad during that time slot.
I would prefer Supersport get the rights as they can broadcast in HD and we can have good build up coverage.
 
wallsend said:
It really is sad that generations could impact on it like it has. but the fact of the matter is that SABC make millions from people watching Generations. Do you know what the ad costs? it's around R150 000 per 30 second ad during that time slot.
I would prefer Supersport get the rights as they can broadcast in HD and we can have good build up coverage.
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I'd love SS to get the rights, but it is better for football if the games are available on free to air TV, so that more people can watch. If SABC don't put up a better offer, then I'm sure SS will step in. Who knows etv could even make a huge move for these rights.
 
I think TopTV, DSTV and SABC should split the R1billion between them
 
mmmig said:
I think TopTV, DSTV and SABC should split the R1billion between them
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I can't see that happening. No way DStv and TopTV would share a licence. Also I'm glad that no one has posted a comment about something like "Bafana are useless, and should pay to be on TV". Looks like not posting this topic in current affairs has its advantages.
 
cr@zydude said:
I'd love SS to get the rights, but it is better for football if the games are available on free to air TV, so that more people can watch. If SABC don't put up a better offer, then I'm sure SS will step in. Who knows etv could even make a huge move for these rights.
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i think if SS get the rights, they HAVE TO SUB LICENSE TO SABC to broadcast.

as a side note, did anyone notice during the india v sa series that the ss commentators names were coming up on sabc.
 
wallsend said:
i think if SS get the rights, they HAVE TO SUB LICENSE TO SABC to broadcast.

as a side note, did anyone notice during the india v sa series that the ss commentators names were coming up on sabc.
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I think that they have to have the games on public tv, so I think they could sub licence to etv.

Plus, if SS get the rights expect more crap like when they got the PSL rights.
 
cr@zydude said:
I think that they have to have the games on public tv, so I think they could sub licence to etv.

Plus, if SS get the rights expect more crap like when they got the PSL rights.
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Our new minister of sport will probably not allow the rights to go to pay tv. And the SAUK know this which is why they'll probably sit on their hands and call in political favours when pushed. Problem is the SABC don't look like improving their coverage. They did put up a couple of more cameras for PSL games but they look to have cut right back.

If they can't interfere with the cash cow then maybe they should look at doing only weekend games. Notice how the SABC is unable to broadcast matches outside the country.
 
cr@zydude said:
I think that they have to have the games on public tv, so I think they could sub licence to etv.

Plus, if SS get the rights expect more crap like when they got the PSL rights.
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yeah, it's a tough 1. Also, I don't enjoy watching SA games due to the commentators speaking zulu. I don't understand zulu so it's kinda frustrating.
 
As far as I remember, Soccer & Cricket played by our National teams have to be broadcast on our public broadcasters channels .... (I think that was Home games tho) so it would be available to the "masses"
 
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IRG said:
As far as I remember, Soccer & Cricket played by our National teams have to be broadcast on our public broadcasters channels .... (I think that was Home games tho) so it would be available to the "masses"
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yeah, that's the way it is for cricket. soccer is home and away
 
With the SABC only having 3 channels to broadcast on, it makes prioritising Generations over Bafana vs. Whoever a little difficult. They should seriously look at implementing a dedicated sports channel or two. It's the only way forward I think.
 
MartyMarts said:
With the SABC only having 3 channels to broadcast on, it makes prioritising Generations over Bafana vs. Whoever a little difficult. They should seriously look at implementing a dedicated sports channel or two. It's the only way forward I think.
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They don't have enough material to show on a dedicated channel. Even SS battles to keep the sport fans entertained during the weekdays resulting in reruns and no broadcasts.
 
JungleBoy said:
Bafana Bafana plays like 6 games a year, or less. I wouldn't subscribe to a channel just for that.
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I'd say it's probably closer to 12 per year, but I know what you mean. Plus TopTV would have to sub-licence the rights to SABC or etv just like Supersport would.
 
JungleBoy said:
They don't have enough material to show on a dedicated channel. Even SS battles to keep the sport fans entertained during the weekdays resulting in reruns and no broadcasts.
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True but I don't see the problem doing reruns, highlights or whatever when there's no live sport. The idea is to keep the Generation fans & Bafana/Protea/Springbok fans happy at the same time. Then one day (probably the same day pigs fly) when the SABC is big, they can utilise our tv license fees to good effect and broadcast live international sports.
 
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