Bandwidth theft - procedure and contacts to solve

[sonxEr77]

If you have been online, even just once, remember also to change your ISP/PPP password.

Hi JungleFacedJake... is this the password given to me by ISP not telkom?

 

[JungleFacedJake]

Hi JungleFacedJake... is this the password given to me by ISP not telkom?

Yes, unless your ISP is Telkom! You would have a user name something like someone@dslmweb.co.za, telkomdsl12345@dsl512telkomsa.net, somebody@allyoucaneat.co.za, with an associated password. I suggest unplugging your router from the Telkom socket, logging into your router via your browser, calling your ISP's help line, getting your ISP/PPP password changed, changing it in the PPP section of your router, changing the router's admin password again for safety, plugging back in and testing the new ISP/PPP password.

Unless I have missed something!

 

[chukky]

Would it not help in preventing "bandwidth theft" is all ISPs supported the feature whereby you can lock your account (username & password) to one or more specified NAS port(s).

On that note, does anybody here know how you can lookup your own NAS Port ID?

 

[nicvon]

ROFL, if you are stupid enough not to change your router details you deserve to have your bandwidth stolen!

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but if you want to use the internet you should know the implications.....

 

[nugpot]

I was just sent a file with over 70 ADSL accounts that mostly all work. (Just logged into the usage stats on saix.net)

They are large cap accounts, TelkomInternet accounts, unshaped accounts, imaginet flexi accounts etc

The two people that sent these to me use these accounts on a daily bases.
Really scary stuff. He is certain they will never catch him.

He might get caught if you did the right thing and gave his name and address to the relevant authorities.

Face it guys, by not fighting this tooth and nail, we are all guilty of causing/condoning the lawlessness in this country.

Theft is both morally and legally wrong. I don't care if you justify your actions by blaming Telkom for capping - a thief is a thief. Congratulations to the bandwidth thieves and those who silently let them do their crime - you are now part of the criminal fraternity.

 

[Paul_S]

ROFL, if you are stupid enough not to change your router details you deserve to have your bandwidth stolen!

That's the most ridiculous comment I've read today.
That's like saying : if you wear a dress you deserve to be gang raped.

 

[nicvon]

Last time I checked wearing a dress has nothing to do with rape......

But if you are naive enough to believe that the world is a nice pretty place and that leaving your router accessible to other people will not result in your bandwidth/network being compromised, then yes you deserve to be ripped off. Grow up, its a dog eat dog world. This is a capitalist world we live in and why should South Africa be any different.

 

[Paul_S]

Last time I checked wearing a dress has nothing to do with rape......

But if you are naive enough to believe that the world is a nice pretty place and that leaving your router accessible to other people will not result in your bandwidth/network being compromised, then yes you deserve to be ripped off. Grow up, its a dog eat dog world. This is a capitalist world we live in and why should South Africa be any different.

So you believe that if people are naive or uninformed that they deserve to become the victims of crime?
What sort of screwed up value system is that?

This is exactly the sort of attitude that is threatening our society.
Let me accept bribes and do under handed stuff because no one is around to stop me and it's a dog-eat-dog world after all. In other words selfishness and greed.
The last thing South Africa needs is another selfish twit who condones what is wrong.

 

[Maestr0]

Ag F O K! Relax man...verander jou donnerse username en password op jou router and ignoreer die klomp drolle. Changing of default router login details are common sense. If you don't have it then go see someone.

 

[Snormossel]

Ag F O K! Relax man...verander jou donnerse username en password op jou router and ignoreer die klomp drolle. Changing of default router login details are common sense. If you don't have it then go see someone.

Sjoe....

 

[Darth Garth]

i believe that the SAPS now have a specific form dealing with this kind of crime

As if the SAPS don't have more serious crimes to attend to than dealing with the utter idiots who are lax with their passwords and not securing the admin system of their routers.

Hell.

 

[Maestr0]

Sjoe....

Sorry man. As mense eers so begin moan oor "society" dan wil ek sommer kots. Bly jy het dit geniet.

 

[Paul_S]

Sorry man. As mense eers so begin moan oor "society" dan wil ek sommer kots. Bly jy het dit geniet.

Why do THEY always have to steal and bugger up everything. I'm so sick of them. I really am. Probably the reason why nothing is happening...same can be said about our government.

You must be making yourself sick.

 

[JungleFacedJake]

That's the most ridiculous comment I've read today.
That's like saying : if you wear a dress you deserve to be gang raped.

Perhaps more like taking your pay in cash and storing it in neat piles on your front lawn. It is really really stupid. Yes, the thief will be wrong, but the insurance won't pay because you took no reasonable steps to secure it.

 

[nugpot]

As if the SAPS don't have more serious crimes to attend to than dealing with the utter idiots who are lax with their passwords and not securing the admin system of their routers.

The fact is that bandwidth theft is a crime and THIS post has just made up my mind to follow the procedure to the end. As soon as I have the name and address of the thief, he will have a civil claim on top of the fraud case against him.

Just because I can.

 

[dominic]

i think the posts about it being deserved as a result of stupidity miss the point that a majority of dsl users simply lack the information required - personally i think that service providers should highlight this as critical information in the set up process

also, even if you know but are too lazy this ds not mean you deserve it or that someone else is somehow justified in stealing..

as regards the SAPS - yes i am sure they have more important things to do but this is theft plain and imple - would you prefer that they ignored it? i am aware of two prosecutions fo bandwidth theft currently taking place in the western cape...

 

[MFour]

Yeah nail the thieves!

 

[TonyA]

i think the posts about it being deserved as a result of stupidity miss the point that a majority of dsl users simply lack the information required - personally i think that service providers should highlight this as critical information in the set up process

also, even if you know but are too lazy this ds not mean you deserve it or that someone else is somehow justified in stealing..

as regards the SAPS - yes i am sure they have more important things to do but this is theft plain and imple - would you prefer that they ignored it? i am aware of two prosecutions fo bandwidth theft currently taking place in the western cape...

I agree. Many non highly experienced PC users are loath to change settings because they fear rendering system non op. ISPs should spend more effort on educating users and having simple password change instructions or perhaps even enforce password changes after so many logins. As for SAPS agree but difficult to implement unless they have a special unit who are PC literate, similar to old commercial crimes unit. My 2c.

 

[Snormossel]

As for SAPS agree but difficult to implement unless they have a special unit who are PC literate

Dnt think so....

 

[dominic]

As for SAPS agree but difficult to implement unless they have a special unit who are PC literate, similar to old commercial crimes unit.

my understanding is that at particular police stations you will find a guy (like craigsa) who is knows the score, i.e. it is a bit hit and miss as to which stations will be able top cope with this

there are moves to try and get a standard procedure going - one of the major stumbling blocks is the reluctance of a certain major ISP to co-operate