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Bear Grylls - hero or zero
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I see an avid Mears fan.
Nobody denies that Mears was a good survival expert. But consideration has to be made for the fact that he's close to 50 now and seems to be eating far too many wild berries.
While he was once a strong, well-built and brilliant bushcraft specialist, he's now an aging fatty. It seems Mears ate all the pies.
I think comparing the two is ridiculous, especially since that was never the point of this thread in the first place. The question was asked whether Bear was really tough (which he is), not whether there was anybody out there who is tougher than he is (which there is).
Nobody denies that Mears was a good survival expert. But consideration has to be made for the fact that he's close to 50 now and seems to be eating far too many wild berries.
While he was once a strong, well-built and brilliant bushcraft specialist, he's now an aging fatty. It seems Mears ate all the pies.
I think comparing the two is ridiculous, especially since that was never the point of this thread in the first place. The question was asked whether Bear was really tough (which he is), not whether there was anybody out there who is tougher than he is (which there is).
D3x
Expert Member
Mears and Stroud were both good, and in essence all used not much different techniques to Grylls.
I'm just wondering if Grylls is a real survivalist with an entertaining show, or is he an entertainer with a survivor type show.
I'm just wondering if Grylls is a real survivalist with an entertaining show, or is he an entertainer with a survivor type show.
MagicDude4Eva
Banned
sorry dude - I watched two episodes of survivorman and this guys is a sissy, complains about everything and pretty much looks like me camping
one thing one can't take away from Bear is his physical fitness. if Bear does most of this physical work, who is his cameraman (Chuck Norris?)
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Picard
Guest
Who also thinks that Bear Grylls and Christian Bale (aka Batman) looks alike somehow.
Lol .... I'm afraid I don't see the resemblance.
But while we're at it, who else thinks that Jackie Selebi looks like Morgan Freeman?
He spent a few months hiking in the Himalayas in 1994.
He was a reservist for the SAS from 1994 to 1997.
He climbed Everest in 1998.
He circumnavigated the UK in a personal watercraft in 2000.
He crossed the North Atlantic in an inflatable boat in 2003.
His first show was only in 2006.
But while we're at it, who else thinks that Jackie Selebi looks like Morgan Freeman?
He was a survivalist before he got his own show.Polish said:
He spent a few months hiking in the Himalayas in 1994.
He was a reservist for the SAS from 1994 to 1997.
He climbed Everest in 1998.
He circumnavigated the UK in a personal watercraft in 2000.
He crossed the North Atlantic in an inflatable boat in 2003.
His first show was only in 2006.
Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Bear Grylls summited Everest at 23... he is hardly a clown.
I think you guys have an inflated expectation of what it takes to survive, perhaps he is not that hardcore but he does know what he is doing.
I think you guys have an inflated expectation of what it takes to survive, perhaps he is not that hardcore but he does know what he is doing.
soldierboi
Well-Known Member
True, Mears is a tough as Titanium Nails,but he looks like a hillbilly
BUT, a proper Survivalist/Explorer has to be our very own Mike Horn...(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Horn).
@rurapente Anderson Cooper ftw! - LOL
- Mister Save Haiti himself
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I agree, that it was never intended to be a "throw an actor into the jungle" type thing cause sooner or later he would die. Which has negative influence on ratings
I would SO watch that show! New presenter every week... Plus, it'd only be the B-list actors, so we'd get rid of the crap ones quicksharp.
Lots of people have climbed the Everest. Doing so does not make you a survivalist and certainly does not make you not a clown. He had good support and was (is) fit but that's all. Mears on the other hand has more knowlegde about what berries to eat, what plants are poisonous and which can be used as medicine or to ward off malaria mosquitoes etc. He runs a bushcraft school and the guys he trains go on to run their own. You see these Kalahari Bushmen who can find water in some root? They walk around quietly and find their stuff, they don't jump around like idiots. That's survivalism not B-grade Hollywood action hero junk.
If anything Grylls is an action junkie with some survivalist knowledge (which food to gather) patched on, while Mears is the real McCoy but isn't in it to jump into rivers or to fight baby alligators.
He's a down to earth guy and has respect for the locals he runs into. His shows are informative. While Grylls is about gung ho stuff but anyone who was in the military and has recently been to Afghanistan or Iraq and actually saw real action and not some reserve border quard pretend SAS stuff, will know that he's just BSng. Jumping into a river, climbing a rope bridge, etc - that's all part of basic training. While that's no joke, it's something any decent soldier will do and guys who are seeing action probably do it better.
Which is exactly why Mears whips his butt. Mears is chubby but he's fit enough and skilled and as said, if lost I'd want to be with Mears and not Grylls. And yes, even some of the advice Grylls gives is BS (I say from a professional POV).
semiautomatix
Honorary Master
I love arachnids!
Though his cameraman has to go everywhere Bear goes with all that equipment. There's a real hero!
You see, Ray Mears won't lie and say he survives on the stuff during the filming of the show. He points the stuff out but doesn't often eat a plateful of berries or roots or lizards. On the other hand, Grylls has a show which is set up in such a way as to fool the gullible into thinking he is out there, alone, with no sort of safety net and ends up eating eathworms or maggots or swimming naked
but it's all for show. It's like Survivor or these Japanese TV shows where they make the contestants do gross things to win money. I realise that in our Reality TV obscessed culture many people enjoy that, but I gave that up after season 1 of Big Brother and for me the knowlegde is more important than seeing some punk jump into a river and pretend that if he twisted his ankle there - he'd end up dead. You know maybe if he taught people HOW to jump and HOW to do these tricks - that would be better - but they don't seem to teach stunt work.Lol@Peter ..... you're so serious about your stance regarding Bear and also your adoration of Mears.
Once again, you've lost the plot and the point of the initial question that was asked.
Perhaps you should simply start a pro-Mears thread instead of throwing your weight around in a pro-Bear one.
Once again, you've lost the plot and the point of the initial question that was asked.
Perhaps you should simply start a pro-Mears thread instead of throwing your weight around in a pro-Bear one.
Just one question.... are you wearing your Ray Mears signed-special addition-raccoon-fart-underwear?
Also what makes your opinion a professional one?
semiautomatix
Honorary Master
Since when was this a pro-Bear one
Title suggests it's open for debate.
This is a pro/anti-Grylls thread NOT a soap box for Ray Mears.
I bet you that Ray doesn't even like arachnids!