Best options for paying for things overseas

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I'm going overseas for the first time in May and was wondering what the best option is for paying for things. (I'll be in Singapore and Bali)

Obviously Credit Card, Travlers cheques and Cash are the options, but I would just like to see other peoples opinions on what is best, how much to budget for for each etc.

FNB has a product called Visa Cash Passport, which is basically an international ATM card - so I'm looking into that as well.

I also don't want to carry tons of cash on me, incase my bag is snatched.

Your thoughts?
 
Carry cash but carry it on your person, not in your hand bag or whatever. That combined with credit card is fine, but I'd probably try and get travelers cheques at a decent rate than have to worry about what the exchange rate is when I buy x on y day.
 
Travellers wallet works out cheaper than CC etc. Thats a std bank product though I think.
 
FNB does have one as well. The benefits are that you know what your conversion rate is, and it cant change. Keep minimal cash and the balance on the card.
 
My advice, based on several overseas trips:

The best way is to buy US dollars before you leave. It is a universal currency, accepted over the world (by money exchangers). You budget yourself at a certain exchange rate, and don't have to worry about credit card fees, or exchange rate fluctuations. You know exactly how much something will cost you in dollar terms, and hence in ZAR terms. It is also the cheapest, and attracts the least amount of fees.

Carrying cash is pretty safe, regardless of what everyone else says. You're probably more at risk of losing your dollars when travelling from your house to the airport, and when getting to the plane. After that you can ease up. But tou obviously shouldn't be naive or foolsih either. You need to guard your dollars and keep it safe. But that goes without say for everyday life in South Africa, you're used to it already, so you'll be fine overseas, especially in East Asia. Almost all hotels will have a safe/vault at reception for storage of valuable items. You can put the bulk (60-70%) of your currency in this main safe/vault. Your hotel room will also have its own safe, protected with a pin code that must be entered on a keypad. Most hotels secure these safes pretty well - they are bolted into the wall. Keep some money in the hotel room safe (20-30%), so you don't have to bother reception each time. Also, keep some money (10-20%) in your wallet for daily use and spending. Don't put all your eggs in one basket!

From what I calculated, the banks (FNB in particular) make big profits on foreign credit card transactions. It really is a rip-off. But DO take your credit card with you. You never know if you might need a bit of extra moola, or you find that expensive something you've been looking for and just have to buy it now, or in case of an emergency. But try to avoid using it.

Buy your currency from Global Foreign Exchange if they are near to you. They had the best rates I could find, and from what I've heard, they even supply US currency to most of the banks. Spend an hour phoning all the banks, and several Forex companies, and get quotes. Do it within an hour so you can compare the different rates accurately.

Also, when you buy your dollars, make sure you get most, if not all of your notes, in 100 dolllar bills. The money-exchangers overseas will give you a lesser rate for smaller bills, less than 100 dollars. The smaller the bill, the less the rate becomes. Some won'even t accept anything less then 50 dollars. Also, when your are overseas, the smaller money exchangers will give you the best rate. The bigger, well known, "branded" money exchangers will give you a rate that is much lower, sometimes shockingly lower. So don't go and exchange all your dollars at once, especially when you arrive at the airport. Exchange maybe just 50 or 100 dollars for taxi fare/transport to your hotel, and snacks/food/drinks...

And lastly... enjoy the experience. East Asia is a nice place to visit. Lots of friendly people. The culture/lifestyle is very different. Remember to bargain/haggle, especially in Bali.
 
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Mix of credit card and cash.

Cash for things like taxi's and for Bali purchases (not sure how widely accepted credit cards are there) and credit card for the rest.

In terms of buying forex to lock in an exchange rate, you could buy your forex for more then the rate is while you oversea and vice versa.
But the exchange rate doesn't swing too far in a short period of time, so unless you worried about a couple of Rand difference here and there, its not going to make a difference spending on the credit card.

There are no fees on credit card transactions. Credit card is better then carrying cash and losing it.
 
I take some cash for when I arrive and then use my FNB Cheque card or Debit card in the local ATMs. I get almost instant in-contact feedback via SMS as to the rand equivalent from FNB and the rate is usually favourable.
 
When he returns what is the best way for him to change his money back without losing loads on fees? Would it be best to deposit his cash Singapore Dollar into his credit card on that side? Just asking, cause bringing any other currency here and then changing it over the counter is costly
 
There are no fees on credit card transactions. Credit card is better then carrying cash and losing it.

Yes there are no fees (depending on your Bank, none with FNB on my current plan, but other banks/plans do have fees), but the exchange rate that the bank will charge you is much higher compared to the exchange rate when buying US currency, taking into account fees paid to both the local Forex company (from who you buy dollars) and the foreign Forex company (aka money exchanger, to whom you sell your dollars, and buy their local currency).

Check this thread for a little discussion I started a while back - How are Credit Card payments in Foreign Currency calculated?

In any case, if the extra money you need to pay (due to currency fluctuations, credit card fees, the bank's higher exchange rate, etc) doesn't bother you, and if you can afford it, then using a credit card is much safer and simpler.

I prefer cash, coz then I know exactly what is going on, how much I am paying, and if it is worthwhile to buy something overseas or in RSA. I feel that the local banks are screwing us quite royally already (compared to other countries), so if I have the option to save a sizeable amount of money for a small effort on my part, I will do it. I calculated my savings to be between R700 and R800.
 
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I take some cash for when I arrive and then use my FNB Cheque card or Debit card in the local ATMs. I get almost instant in-contact feedback via SMS as to the rand equivalent from FNB and the rate is usually favourable.

+1

Although I often arrive in a foreign location with zero local currency and draw a minimal amount at an ATM before leaving the destination airport.
Just enough local FX for taxi's etc. , and the rest like shops, hotel and restaurant goes on the card.

Indonesia is really bad for changing US$ at banks and money changers - they actually give you less than the top rate if the bank note is not crisp and fresh from the mint (just folding it in your wallet will result in a lower rate).
 
Thanks everyone, this helped alot.
I have a credit card with virign, and my cheque account with FNB, and ATM withdrawls from overseas are R11 from Virgin, and I don't have to pay with FNB (Fee Saver account)
Just a note to anyone who is travelling overseas, you need to inform the bank that you are travelling so that they don't think anything fishy is happening with your account when you use your card there.
 
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