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[[)roi(]]

No argument there.

But does the layman use markdown?

Markdown was developed for layman; nothing could be easier / faster to layout a professional looking post.

 

[Thor]

Markdown was developed for layman; nothing could be easier / faster to layout a professional looking post.

Doesn't matter what it was developed for the reality is Word is what the layman uses.

Mimic word and you have a successful platform

 

[[)roi(]]

Doesn't matter what it was developed for the reality is Word is what the layman uses.

Mimic word and you have a successful platform

Word really? Easier?
Have you ever used markdown? ~3 minutes gets you the basics, and the more advanced stuff is essy to learn in another 5 to 10 minutes.

 

[_kabal_]

https://stackedit.io/editor

markdown mimicking word (read: having a button to bold text)

 

[[)roi(]]

https://stackedit.io/editor

markdown mimicking word (read: having a button to bold text)

That's just such a slow way to style a post, far easier to learn this. https://guides.github.com/features/mastering-markdown/

 

[_kabal_]

of course, but thor said everyone is unable to learn something simple and new

 

[[)roi(]]

of course, but thor said everyone is unable to learn something simple and new

Really, unable? or unwilling?

You type this:

# Attention
What could be easier than using `inline` code tags to **express** yourself or to raise __attention__ to certain part of your paragraph.

> And using this if you really want something to stand out.

## Adding Code
Adding code is even easier than the stupid MyBB tags.
```Java
String name = "john";
String surname = "james";
for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
{
  System.out.println("Hello, World!);
}
```
etc...

And you get this:

 

[Thor]

That's just such a slow way to style a post, far easier to learn this. https://guides.github.com/features/mastering-markdown/

of course, but thor said everyone is unable to learn something simple and new

Really, unable? or unwilling?

You type this:
View attachment 422162

And you get this:
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No no I love markdown I use it everywhere most of my sites and blogs are jekyll and done with markdown.

However general, I honestly don't think people even know what it is.

TinyMCE is the online editor the layman uses and majority of forum editors are based on that style the toolbar, the layman feels lost without the toolbar

 

[[)roi(]]

No no I love markdown I use it everywhere most of my sites and blogs are jekyll and done with markdown.

However general, I honestly don't think people even know what it is.

I taught my Mom; 76 years old; and it didn't take more than 10 minutes.

TinyMCE is the online editor the layman uses and majority of forum editors are based on that style the toolbar, the layman feels lost without the toolbar

It's an awful workflow; select text; click button, select text; click button. Even worse on a touch device; have you tried editing a post on e.g. an iPad

I never use a traditional word processor app anymore; my entire workflow is in Markdown; plus as you know with Jekyll; the more "advanced" (but not so difficult) layout can result in some relatively complex layout with simple to remember format codes,

For example; both of these are done with markdown:

• https://gist.github.com/codefunc/6cb685c9eb229ed6354da2cbd0b51775#parametric
• http://codefunc.github.io/2016/09/22/FOLD-Higher-Order-Function/

 

[Johnatan56]

Really, unable? or unwilling?

You type this:

# Attention
What could be easier than using `inline` code tags to **express** yourself or to raise __attention__ to certain part of your paragraph.

> And using this if you really want something to stand out.

## Adding Code
Adding code is even easier than the stupid MyBB tags.
```Java
String name = "john";
String surname = "james";
for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
{
  System.out.println("Hello, World!);
}
```
etc...

And you get this:
View attachment 422170

That looks quite nice, wish the coding piece would be implemented by MyBB considering it's a tech forum.

 

[[)roi(]]

That looks quite nice, wish the coding piece would be implemented by MyBB considering it's a tech forum.

The problem is vBulletin; such an old and rubbish BB solution; hasn't seen significant updates for more than a decade.

 

[Spacerat]

I taught my Mom; 76 years old; and it didn't take more than 10 minutes.

It's an awful workflow; select text; click button, select text; click button. Even worse on a touch device; have you tried editing a post on e.g. an iPad

I never use a traditional word processor app anymore; my entire workflow is in Markdown; plus as you know with Jekyll; the more "advanced" (but not so difficult) layout can result in some relatively complex layout with simple to remember format codes,

yes like WordPerfect used to be.....

 

[Thor]

yes like WordPerfect used to be.....

In wordpress or TinyMCE's defense, try to attach images and lat text and right align with markdown. Compare that process to drag and drop

 

[joburgbeardcompany]

You can have a look at www.mustache.co.za. They are pretty good and won't charge you an arm and a leg and you will get a quality website with a custom built theme.

 

[Batista]

You can easily expect to spend at least R15 000 to R20000 for an amazing custom design. Bear in mind that is JUST for the design. Then you need to find a good front-end html developer to cut up the design PSDs and turn it into a well-coded static html template. You could easily spend another R20 000 on that. Then you have to find a good backend developer to take the static html template and turn it into a dynamic content managed website using a content management system. Depending on your requirements, complexity, etc you could be looking at another R20 000 to R30 000 for that.

Stay FAR away from any cowboy who claims they can do all 3 of these functions. They might think that they can, but they can't. I can guarantee you if try to cut corners by getting the same person to do all 3 your website will fail. A truly successful website build requires dedicated specialists to do design, front-end, and back-end. The level of skill required these days to truly master all 3 disciplines means that it is impossible for one person to be a true master of all 3.

Think of it this way, would you trust someone who claimed to be a qualified doctor, engineer and lawyer all wrapped into one? I'm sure you wouldn't, yet everyday people trust their website projects with cowboys who claim they can design AND build the front-end AND develop the back-end.

Guess I am a special snowflake then because I do all 3 and get paid for it - outside of my normal dayjob.

 

[[)roi(]]

In wordpress or TinyMCE's defense, try to attach images and lat text and right align with markdown. Compare that process to drag and drop

What's "lat text"?

Everything you said try I've done; it's all possible... just have a look here: https://gist.github.com/codefunc/e78e735ac169c9973c27dd9db06d7ff0

 

[Thor]

What's "lat text"?

Everything you said try I've done; it's all possible... just have a look here: https://gist.github.com/codefunc/e78e735ac169c9973c27dd9db06d7ff0

That's pretty awesome I'm keeping it for myself. I love and use markdown I'm just trying to demonstrate that would not be as user friendly to the Joe on the street as TinyMCE is, otherwise WordPress would have used it.

 

[[)roi(]]

That's pretty awesome I'm keeping it for myself. I love and use markdown I'm just trying to demonstrate that would not be as user friendly to the Joe on the street as TinyMCE is, otherwise WordPress would have used it.

Wordpress never used it simply because historically they were first; markdown only came later.

Still as I said, it wouldn't be too difficult to build a Wordpress style formatting toolbar (including drag/drop) that adds the appropriate markdown tags. In time, users will become more use to markdown, in the same way that MyBB forum users became use to vBulletin style tags.

Quick Google and found this:
https://simplemde.com
from what I can see only parts missing is drop/drop and tables.

 

[Thor]

Wordpress never used it simply because historically they were first; markdown only came later.

Still as I said, it wouldn't be too difficult to build a Wordpress style formatting toolbar (including drag/drop) that adds the appropriate markdown tags. In time, users will become more use to markdown, in the same way that MyBB forum users became use to vBulletin style tags.

Markdown is life.

I'm going to see of I can get one going for PW would be awesome.

 

[rorz0r]

Really, unable? or unwilling?

You type this:

# Attention
What could be easier than using `inline` code tags to **express** yourself or to raise __attention__ to certain part of your paragraph.

> And using this if you really want something to stand out.

## Adding Code
Adding code is even easier than the stupid MyBB tags.
```Java
String name = "john";
String surname = "james";
for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++)
{
  System.out.println("Hello, World!);
}
```
etc...

And you get this:
View attachment 422170

Thanks, now I know markdown...