Beware Poor Service Levels from 8ta

Methias

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So this has now been a long fight with 8ta to get some sort of reasonable speeds from them. Since I signed up for the 8ta contract I haven't had the greatest of signal levels (despite being promised it would be fine by the sales lady).

I normally got an average of around 1.5Mbs sometimes 1Mbs and rarely 4Mbs. My pings initially were okay, 250ms or so to international servers and 60-80ms locally. Around 2 months ago the pings started failing horribly, 800ms is the best ping, speeds dropped to around 1Mbs on average.

Then starting on November the network is beyond disgusting.

3rd: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1571681904.png

ave of 900ms ping to local servers, 0.16Mbs download and 0.02Mbs upload

4th: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1573062947.png

ave of 1200ms pings to local servers, 0.17Mbs download and 0.02Mbs upload

5th: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1574524519.png

And again today, almost 1300ms pings, download speeds of 0.05Mbs and uploads of 0.03Mbs

Early this morning I was getting speeds of 0.83Mbs and its plummeted now to these pathetic levels.

Now I emailed the [email protected] address and got no response. I had to tweet to the 8ta twitter account to get a response from them. "We have sent to the network department". Well great thanks. Thanks for doing the right thing and informing me that you received my email and that someone is trying to help me.

Almost another month has passed and I have still had zero updates, until I go tweet the 8ta account again. The response I get is that they are busy building 2 new sites in the area and they will find out when they will be operational. Well at least now they are trying to get me information. The problem is, I was told the same thing when I forst got the network department to try help. This was maybe 4 months ago, back then I was promised a new site would be up and running within a week or two. This also does nothing to compensate me for the loss of internet until these sites come online and nor does it explain how the network goes from poor quality but usable to unusable within 2 days.

Of course all these speed tests are done with nothing else running, all the running processes have been checked as well as the 8ta GUI showing traffic to rule out the possibility of a rouge app running and eating the bandwidth.

Running a tracert on yesterdays connection:

Code:
A tracert to www.google.co.za


Tracing route to www.l.google.com [74.125.79.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms * <1 ms *PCName and IP removed*
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 1650 ms 69 ms 99 ms 172.16.2.1
4 175 ms 190 ms 128 ms 172.16.2.129
5 326 ms 1159 ms 139 ms wbs-ip-hsll-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.4.1
17]
6 328 ms 300 ms 249 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-pos-1-1-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za
[196.43.9.138]
7 371 ms 229 ms 230 ms 221-76-245-83.packetexchange.net [83.245.76.221]

8 251 ms 287 ms 280 ms 209.85.255.175
9 1488 ms 1128 ms 1410 ms 72.14.233.63
10 590 ms 440 ms 509 ms 209.85.255.70
11 266 ms 289 ms 329 ms 216.239.49.36
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 3540 ms 259 ms 490 ms ey-in-f104.1e100.net [74.125.79.104]

Trace complete.
 
I would suspect the Sat3 break might have something to do with this, not sure what 8ta has as a redundant link and any of the promotional packages are probably not given much priority. Can you tell us

Has this been around the time of the Sat3 break or has it been since you started using the service?

How long have you been using the service and how regularly (like here and there or as a main means to be connected the whole day)?

Roughly where do you access the network (suburb if you can) and what is the signal strength like? Is it what it should be according to the various coverage maps?

I am toying with the idea of signing up to 8ta as the R199 deal is SO good, but I am worried the service for this is going to be patchy and not up to scratch hence the questions.
 
I would suspect the Sat3 break might have something to do with this, not sure what 8ta has as a redundant link and any of the promotional packages are probably not given much priority. Can you tell us

Has this been around the time of the Sat3 break or has it been since you started using the service?

How long have you been using the service and how regularly (like here and there or as a main means to be connected the whole day)?

Roughly where do you access the network (suburb if you can) and what is the signal strength like? Is it what it should be according to the various coverage maps?

I am toying with the idea of signing up to 8ta as the R199 deal is SO good, but I am worried the service for this is going to be patchy and not up to scratch hence the questions.
International links should not have caused this... they use Telkom's links where there is full redundancy.

In terms of towers, it appears that their tower sharing agreement with ATC (ex Cell C towers) has finally been signed. So we should see a mad rush by 8ta to get more sites on air before the Christmas network freeze period.

Last I saw they have around 1100 of their own (8ta) sites on air.
 
I had a nice long reply typed out, but the connection died :(.

But briefly, I've been with 8ta since sometime Aug/Sep. Its my full time connection. My connection was okayish as I said (okay not great but at least the internet was usable) but since november its just been useless.

My huge concern now is I have a 2yr contract that's at the moment completely crap.
 
I have the same problem, connection was fine and now it's gone to crap!
 
YAY, Thank you to Vodacom I can now at least have usable internet. The 20gig promo for R500 will at least get me connectivity unlike the current useless state of 8ta

Now to find the nearest vodastore
 
@ MickeyD
Just seemed like a bit of a coincidence and if I were 8ta I would not exactly prioritise a R199 deal over my corporate customers for the redundant links.

Perhaps a few other 8ta users could tell us if they have noticed any difference during the Sat3 break?

@Methias
Perhaps you could also just tell us what the signal strength and quality is like to get an idea if that could be part of your normal slower access and what modem you are using (7.2Mb/21Mb/42Mb?)
 
@Bern

My signal strength varies between -89db and -93db and I'm using a 21.1Mbps modem. I used to get MUCH faster speeds with these signal levels. Its just crashed properly since the beginning of November and everyone at 8ta is taking their sweet time to fix it.

As a side note I do notice speeds pick up to usable late at night, 11pm+, and early in the morning, 5am - 8am. Other than those times it plummets into uselessness and timeouts. The other night I had local pings of 3200ms+.
 
@Bern

My signal strength varies between -89db and -93db and I'm using a 21.1Mbps modem. I used to get MUCH faster speeds with these signal levels. Its just crashed properly since the beginning of November and everyone at 8ta is taking their sweet time to fix it.

As a side note I do notice speeds pick up to usable late at night, 11pm+, and early in the morning, 5am - 8am. Other than those times it plummets into uselessness and timeouts. The other night I had local pings of 3200ms+.

My Speeds and connection stability has also plummeted the last couple of weeks, its terrible, and 8ta are not being any help to me, i have emailed there stupid email address and have tried calling the call centre and am just on hold for ridiculous amount of time.

My signal is at 65%, downloads are at about 0.12Kbs and ping is 300MS+
 
No offence but this 8ta rep on mybb is pretty slow as well... He might as well stop visiting the forum as i havent really seen any positive changes made through him..

My connection on the other hand is still ok for now. It has dropped but nothing like yours.

sorry to hear about what is happening, i hope its more of a temporary issue and gets resolved quick.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
 
No offence but this 8ta rep on mybb is pretty slow as well... He might as well stop visiting the forum as i havent really seen any positive changes made through him..

My connection on the other hand is still ok for now. It has dropped but nothing like yours.

sorry to hear about what is happening, i hope its more of a temporary issue and gets resolved quick.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

I would have to agree with you on the 8ta rep, all i think the rep knows what to do is copy and paste the below email:

Hi
We would like to help/investigate.
Please email you 8ta number, contact details and Physical address to [email protected].
Please make reference to this post.
Thank you
8ta

To be honest he/she probably knows nothing about the technical side of things
 
Ye well I found out now from the call center that they have been having problems with the internet for the past week and they are still having problems. They were not 100% sure when it will be resolved.
 
Seriously how did you guys think you were going to get anything better from a telkom based company?


I don't give a squat how cheap they make their prices to "break" into the market, I would not purchase anything from them. It is bad enough having to deal with Telkom let alone putting yourself through the stress of dealing with them for a product you can get from other places.

Hell I would even take Vodacon products before I touch 8-ta
 
I had a nice long reply typed out, but the connection died :(.

If you leave the browser tab as is and resend when you have a connection it should go through. I get disconnects from time to time and it always works.

(I use Firefox, but it should work in the useless blue browser too :))
 
You see what it has come too..... Lol, we have to get tips on how to deal with disconnections.... Ha ha
 
It is probably just network congestion on specific towers.

Here are my speed test results done this morning 10:11 AM.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1581833337.png

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1581837999.png

That is pretty worrying, they have plenty spectrum as far as I am aware and surely not that many people have taken up their offer to get to the point of network congestion on specific radio towers for that sort of time period (from 5am to 11pm). If I understand correctly 8ta was only available from their own towers with their own backhaul - surely this meant fibre back-haul?? If they are using E1s to back-haul a 21Mb network I am not going near that deal no matter how cheap... It would explain the congestion issue though.
 
It is worrying. Although from the previous posts, there are more sites which will be going up. Hopefully this will resolve the issues.

Not sure on the fibre backhaul.

That is pretty worrying, they have plenty spectrum as far as I am aware and surely not that many people have taken up their offer to get to the point of network congestion on specific radio towers for that sort of time period (from 5am to 11pm). If I understand correctly 8ta was only available from their own towers with their own backhaul - surely this meant fibre back-haul?? If they are using E1s to back-haul a 21Mb network I am not going near that deal no matter how cheap... It would explain the congestion issue though.
 
Not surprisingly I'm still waiting for a call from 8ta technicians. Now 2 days later than when I was promised a call. Utterly useless
 
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