Big BEE push with SA's spectrum

*facepalm*

Yes, lets leave the population without decent broadband, it`s a much better idea to have a few black faces make billions from substandard service instead of actually providing the majority black population with decent affordable internet. I`m sure *name* Zuma have the knowledge and skills to effectively use the spectrum.
 
What ever happened to the under serviced operators and the millions given to them.
Did they forget Ivy's policies did not work
 
Wait, so what they're saying is that they think that BEE companies will push broadband access in rural areas rather than chasing profits in more densely populated areas where people have money to rack up large phone bills due to some sense of responsibility? That's a bit naive/idealistic don't you think?
 
Government backed BEE upstarts? Now there's a formula for failure if ever I've seen one.

Also look at the BEE 'successes' like Eskom, SAA, SABC etc. Not a single one of them is known for bringing prices down, in fact taxpayers have to bail them out time & again.

This is nothing more than continued looting by looking-after-my-family-tenderpreneurs.
 
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I'm fine with their aims but good gracious they need to implement a DEADLINE and a use it or lose it policy for those non-existant BBE companies instead of holding the whole country to ransom indefinately. Retards. UGHHH! :mad:
 
I love the attempt to blame the market:
“We have allowed the market to dictate what needs to happen since 1993, but the market has not delivered to the majority of the people. We need to think differently if we are to deliver broadband to all people,” said Munzhelele.
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The government has never allowed the market to dictate in the ICT sector, it has allowed certain players in the market to dictate and behave like a cartel but that isn't the same as allowing the market - by which the ordinary person (ie somebody who isn't a SACP zombie) means the free market and market forces - to work.

I fully support the idea of government wanting small BEE or whatever firms to enter the market and endorse non-window dressing efforts to make access to the market a reality. That is started by not having grand brunches with the largest players and seeking to persist in monopolistic and cartel practices, that is advanced by the DoC relinquishing its stake in Telkom (the PIC share isn't a problem at all and the state as an institutional investor can have 3/4s of Telkom without a problem through the PIC the IDC and what not, its the fact that the DoC has a controlling interest in how Telkom does business that is the core problem). Free market advocates and libertarians and so on won't agree with that position - but they shouldn't agree with regulation at all really - but our ECA and our Constitution and our general political framework demand a progressivist agenda, we have a Competition Act and a Consumer Act and a badly written new Companies Act and a system within which a market exists. Subject to the progressivist regulations of our system the industry should be free, however the DoC have never allowed this to be the case. We aren't seeing a free market or partially free market collapse we are seeing the results of psuedo capitalism in the ICT sector.
 
CellC, Vodacom, 8ta, MTN can provide for those millions. It's the governments fault why it hasn't happened yet.
 
My soul how can anybody think that this would work?

What about we appoint spectrum to:
a) companies who have the biggest networks already and will most likely be able to reach out to the rural areas
b) companies who have a track record of actually coming to market and delivering services
c) companies who have a track record of lowering prices and thus making it more affordable

Then add a provision to the spectrum that
a) Services must be rolled out to rural areas within x years or you lose the spectrum
b) You must have certain BEE rating within x years otherwise you lose the spectrum.

Hell, they can even decide to appoint one small block to an upstart BEE company to see how it goes.

Well, we'll all be using our HSPA+ modems in 20 years from now while the rest of the world uses long-long-long-long-term-evolution at 10 gbps. Fun.
 
“We have allowed the market to dictate what needs to happen since 1993, but the market has not delivered to the majority of the people. We need to think differently if we are to deliver broadband to all people,”

Bullshiat!

The ANC DoC has been the primary cause for high prices and slow progress in the telecoms industry. And to say the private sector has not been doing its part for BEE is disingenuous. This is a stab in the back when you consider that all companies recruit according to BEE guidelines and telcos are charged a set percentage of their profits solely for BEE purposes. If they have not been using the money for what it was intended (cough! Zuma mansion cough! pule shoes and holidays cough!) then the people of the country maybe needs to take it up with them.
 
So will this BEE company just act as a middle man reselling the spectrum to the other providers and thereby enriching some cronies that are in fact offering no value?
Thereby screwing the disadvantaged instead of improving their lives like the smoke and mirrors suggest?

Any bets?
 
This would be a good time for the telecoms companies to come together and put forward a handsome bribe to whoever/Poo-le/somebody corrupt
 
So when is Nklanda getting its FTTR (fibre to the rondavel)?
 
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So will this BEE company just act as a middle man reselling the spectrum to the other providers and thereby enriching some cronies that are in fact offering no value?
Thereby screwing the disadvantaged instead of improving their lives like the smoke and mirrors suggest?

Any bets?
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You hit the nail on the head.
Front spectrum company gets created to license spectrum. This company's shareholders and diectors will be connected to the ruling party or through backhanded DoC deals.
The operators will just factor this BEE spectrum tax in their prices and keep on charging inflated prices for bandwidth.
 
Speaking at the DoC’s broadband policy workshop, Norman Munzhelele drew the Independent Communications Authority of South Africa’s (ICASA’s) attention to the principles for handing out spectrum, adding that “we cannot perpetuate what we see today”.
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This is even scarier than just "The DoC will play a role in telecoms" - at this rate, you have to ask "Why even have a regulator?"

:eek:
 
whatever, this is nothing new, was the same position 6 years ago....just do it
 
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