Biggest local spammers named and shamed

From which of the following companies did you receive spam?

  • Dynamic Seminars

    Votes: 48 64.9%
  • New Heights 1268

    Votes: 12 16.2%
  • SA Webs

    Votes: 27 36.5%
  • Computer Corporation Marketing

    Votes: 17 23.0%
  • Bridging Finance | Making money with SMS Shortcodes | Bizopp

    Votes: 11 14.9%
  • [url]www.we-insure.co.za[/url]

    Votes: 17 23.0%
  • C2IT

    Votes: 41 55.4%
  • Creativehearts.co.za

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • Laurinda Wernars Database Design

    Votes: 7 9.5%
  • Burgundyrealty

    Votes: 11 14.9%

  • Total voters
    74
All they have to do is react to a formal complaint. Then react accordingly.

That's exactly what the ISPA does when the ISP's do not respond your complaints, and they do it very well I might add. ISPA helped me whack M-Web for not responding to my complaints about a spammer on their network. What worked in my favour was after repeated requests to M-Web, there was no action: I then forwarded all that documentation to the ISPA and they took M-Web to task, found them guilty, M-Web appealed and were found guilty again. +100 for the ISPA.
 
But the ISPs don't have to be big cbrother at all. All they have to do is react to a formal complaint. Then react accordingly. I am by no means endorsing a complete "inspect all traffic" approach. But if ISPs were just more responsable about traffic originating on their networks there would be less, local at least, spam. This means better network reliability and response. That means happier clients, who would probably pay a premium for this convinience.

The legal side is actually cut and dry. The T&C state the rules which as a client of an ISP you accept. Break the rules you get fined or lose your "license". Highways have these rules why shouldn't the info super highway?

I would be very interested to hear a response from ISPA or somebody at the bigger ISPs on this.

As far as I understand it what you are advocating is a system whereby being accused of sending spam is enough to cut someone off. Being accused by someone does not constitute guilt.

Unless guilt is decided upon in a court of law you are considered innocent, that is how it works. The same works for copyright infringement. The last thing we need is for ISPs to start cutting customers off because they are merely accused of something without a court order, regardless of the circumstance.

I hate spammers as much as everyone, but that is not an answer.

Remember those T&C's also often mention other illegal activities such as copyright infringement...you want ISPs to cut you off when the RIAA or MPAA accuse you without being able to state your case in a court? because it seems like the same situation to me.
 
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They are cut off, as the terms & conditions when they joined ISP states that unsolicited email etc is not tolerated. MWeb has terminated someone like that before.

Where is Ross from Matrix Marketing, another spam list supplier?
 
rpm why haven't the ISPs that supply services to these companies taken action against them. Surely the ISPs should be named and shamed too as they are not doing anything to help the situation. Oh wait they make money from these guys too so they really don't care. Maybe they should be thrown out of ISPA then for there lack of commitment to the cause? Just asking.

As others have already pointed out, if an ISPA member's network is being used by anyone appearing on the Hall of Shame, that member does get notified, and is expected to take appropriate action against the spammer. ISPA's Code of Conduct requires members to take reasonable steps to make sure that their networks don't get used to send spam.

Thus, in most cases the spammers appearing on the Hall of Shame are not sending (or no longer sending) spam via ISPs who are ISPA members.
 
Vodacom is the biggest SMS spammer of all, why is it not on the list ?

+1. the worst of the lot. you can ignore email spam, but how do u escape from sms spam?

the issue is that they are charging 80c per sms, whereas the cost is closer to 2c, and thats why they can afford to spam you all year long. criminals! :mad:
 
They are cut off, as the terms & conditions when they joined ISP states that unsolicited email etc is not tolerated. MWeb has terminated someone like that before.

Where is Ross from Matrix Marketing, another spam list supplier?

"someone" out of how many? there is no deterrent from the isp's pov, as more spam sent from their accounts simply means more money for them.
 
there is no deterrent from the isp's pov, as more spam sent from their accounts simply means more money for them.

I'm not convinced that's true. Usually a spammer isn't paying their ISP more than an ordinary customer, and yet they inevitably cause higher load on the ISP's mail server, generate more complaints for the ISP to deal with, and may even cause problems for the ISP's other customers, if their mail server gets listed on one of the spam-blocking systems.

Generally, it is in an ISP's best interest to prevent spammers from abusing their networks, since (unlike the mobile networks) ISPs do not get paid per message that their customers send.
 
Spammers RAS :mad: When I saw the headline I really didn't think I would be able to tick off as many spammers as I did :mad:

Name and Shame . . . but what really happens to them.
 
I have a suggestion, the ISP's should give all clients the option to automatically add these addresses and domains to the Blacklist by default i.e. while setting up the account. I have about 200 addresses in my control panel blacklist, but it's a pain to do it individually.
 
Homemark.... I win something like every week. But via cellphone, mind you. Where they even got it, I have no idea.
 
Spammer

I know that sa webs have recently moved isp's and have moved to Hetzner Online
 
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There should also be a list of those swines from call centres who plague us. My colleague at work literally gets 3 to 4 calls a day from some floozy trying to flog their product.

So now he does answer with his name. He simply tells them "he" has left the company :D
 
I wonder if ISPA would assist someone (financially) in a test case against one of the bigger spammers?
There is a R30 000 bounty sitting in a savings account waiting for the first high court conviction. Many of the people involved in the ISOC spammer bounty are also involved with ISPA and all want the same thing.

The problem comes that the spam cases are fighting for space in the same courts that are years behind in prosecuting murderers and rapists. :(
 
We hosted New Heights for a while back in 2006/7 but suspended them after our firewall picked up excessive email usage, and eventually terminated them after multiple strikes. Unfortunately they just swap hosts all the time so it's pretty hard to stop these guys.
 
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