Billing system could cost R485m

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There is still no clarity on when the eThekwini Municipality's new revenue management system will be implemented after the council's executive committee failed to decide on a request for further funding to complete the project.
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No decision was taken though on whether the budget increase of R77-million needed for its completion would be approved.

The initial budget of R90m to R150m has now jumped to a possible R485m.
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Jayzuz I've got to get into some gauvamint work. They could have got themselves a full on enterprise SAP implementation for the price they're prepared to pay for a billing module.

.... hmmm wonder if on of the Mpisane's wants to get involved in an IT company
 
What I dont understand is that in the past pre 1994 there were no such issues? Or am I wrong. What happened to those systems of way back then? I understand that billing systems etc needs to change and be upgraded as time goes by, but surely if it was working before, what changed that billing systems are toppling over? If it is due to operators etc not knowing what the hell they doing then implementing a R485 million new billing system is not going to fix it. No?
 
McSack said:
Jayzuz I've got to get into some gauvamint work. They could have got themselves a full on enterprise SAP implementation for the price they're prepared to pay for a billing module.

.... hmmm wonder if on of the Mpisane's wants to get involved in an IT company
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In my experience, almost every tender has someone's name on it (if you catch my drift), so 90% of the time it is not worth the pain and suffering.

ocleroux said:
What I dont understand is that in the past pre 1994 there were no such issues? Or am I wrong. What happened to those systems of way back then? I understand that billing systems etc needs to change and be upgraded as time goes by, but surely if it was working before, what changed that billing systems are toppling over? If it is due to operators etc not knowing what the hell they doing then implementing a R485 million new billing system is not going to fix it. No?
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I guess because the tax base is much larger than before, the old system cannot handle the load or volumes? I am speaking as a layperson, so it's just IMO.
 
OINK..

Is this the same as the new ticketing system nobody could work with?
 
blunomore said:
In my experience, almost every tender has someone's name on it (if you catch my drift), so 90% of the time it is not worth the pain and suffering.
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Unfortunately true ... which is probably why we are paying inflated prices for substandard delivery

blunomore said:
I guess because the tax base is much larger than before, the old system cannot handle the load or volumes? I am speaking as a layperson, so it's just IMO.
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surprisingly all the big financial institutions are still operating on 30year old systems - obviously some innovation has gone into maintaining and upgrading them but still... I laugh when I hear these government types getting all excited about their new flashy toy-box systems managing 5,000 transactions in a month when systems I work on are capable of churning out 5,000 times more than that in a day (yes we're talking 20-25 million transactions)
Many a CEO would jizz in his pants if he got 500 mil to blow on a single IT initiative
 
I bet you someones bro is getting this tender... just like the DBN 2010wc site that cost R5mil!
 
Actually a lot of the big financial institutions are looking at moving systems. 15-20-30 years is a massive leap in IT, there are technological innovations which are supposed to make the job easier or even just being able to analyse the data which you have amassed over this time, would require new systems. I don't doubt that they need to change their system but this cost is absolutely ludicrous.
 
ocleroux said:
What I dont understand is that in the past pre 1994 there were no such issues? Or am I wrong. What happened to those systems of way back then? I understand that billing systems etc needs to change and be upgraded as time goes by, but surely if it was working before, what changed that billing systems are toppling over? If it is due to operators etc not knowing what the hell they doing then implementing a R485 million new billing system is not going to fix it. No?
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Without a new system how would they stuff pockets dude?
 
Ironically when the munic were deciding to upgrade their billing system they decided on a independently developed app rather than a than SAP's utility solution. It's like all those companies that burnt their fingers deploying linux and then having to pay 10 fold for administrators and training rather than just going the MS route.
 
McSack said:
surprisingly all the big financial institutions are still operating on 30year old systems
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All big financial institutions have a wide mix of systems - from old IBM mainframes to state of the art systems... in the private sector a thing called "Budget" means totally different (apparently) as in the Gov sector

McSack said:
I laugh when I hear these government types getting all excited about their new flashy toy-box systems managing 5,000 transactions in a month when systems I work on are capable of churning out 5,000 times more than that in a day (yes we're talking 20-25 million transactions)
Many a CEO would jizz in his pants if he got 500 mil to blow on a single IT initiative
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Yeah we easily do 150mil+ transactions a day...
Remember - a system is only as "smart/intiative/bulletproof" as its weakest link - which is the "human component"!

killadoob said:
Without a new system how would they stuff pockets dude?
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Don't they just "take" it these days - and receive a slap on the wrist when caught...
 
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