Binding multiple ADSL lines

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Hi everyone

I currently use some Mikrotik hardware for routing on a network of mine, and am now looking at binding 2 ADSL lines together. I am aware that Openweb offers this, but they are expensive. I would like to do it myself, but am not sure how to. The best method I have seem to come access is PCC routing using a Mikrotik Routerboard.
Does anyone have any experience with this and could you point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance
 
b@nD said:
Far as I can see you still need TWO devices -- one on each end -- will your ISP be prepared to set up one of these at their end ?
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thats only for vpn bonding?
 
nivek said:
thats only for vpn bonding?
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I also thought so. Its not true bonding if its not bonded on the other end. For example internet banking will fail. Eg; You start your session over WAN1 and then further on your session your go over WAN2 but internet banking is expecting a connection from WAN1.

I will try and find my post where I asked this and was replied here on MyBB.
 
You can only load balance if you only control the hardware on the one side. I've only noticed ABSA and Virgin Money had issues, a simple rule specific to their IP resolves that issue.
It's not like you'll see double the line speed though, but there will be less connections fighting over the one line.
 
Hi There,
I agree with COlinR in that the control is one sided.
My understanding to fully bind you need to have the ISP involved and there are some hefty charges involved to do it.

Regards

Tim
 
Hallo there;

I was able to bond two ADSL lines (WAN1 - Axxess) (WAN2 - Afrihost) using a Peplink Balance 20 (about R4k)
A speedtest produce the combined speed of the two lines (10mbps x 2)

<a href="http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3096044518"><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/3096044518.png" /></a>

Perhaps the theory is because Axxess and Afrhihost use the same MTN Business backbone, i.e both WAN links have the same gateway. So far all is running smooth including banking etc.

Not using any Peplink device on the other end.

Another way of doing this is with a Multipath router - arriving in South Africa soon (www.multipathnetworks.com)
Message me if you are interested as we will be distributing the device in here, stock arriving in early December

Take care

Louis
 
lcoetzee2 said:
Hallo there;

I was able to bond two ADSL lines (WAN1 - Axxess) (WAN2 - Afrihost) using a Peplink Balance 20 (about R4k)
A speedtest produce the combined speed of the two lines (10mbps x 2)

<a href="http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3096044518"><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/3096044518.png" /></a>

Perhaps the theory is because Axxess and Afrhihost use the same MTN Business backbone, i.e both WAN links have the same gateway. So far all is running smooth including banking etc.

Not using any Peplink device on the other end.

Another way of doing this is with a Multipath router - arriving in South Africa soon (www.multipathnetworks.com)
Message me if you are interested as we will be distributing the device in here, stock arriving in early December

Take care

Louis
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Which bank? Standard and Nedbank doesnt bomb out so much but ABSA produces kittens after 1 second
 
Also consider fiber as ADSL bonding can become quite expensive. 1:5 metro fiber can be quite affordable. Just get as many quotes as possible and make sure that you make an informed decision.

For quotes try:

Internet Solutions
Mweb
Neotel
Vodacom Business
RSAweb


These are the ones from the top of my head, but fiber is a tier 1 service, so SLA will be the best with none of the drawbacks of copper. Also upload speed is same as down, unlike ADSL where upload is max 512/1MB.
 
I can confirm that it is definitely 1 sided control.

We have many customers using 3x 4meg ADSL lines with awesome results. No-one makes bonding as easy as peplink.
 
Can be done quite easily as well if you have a Cisco IOS device. 4 x DSL modems into a hub or switch into the router. Router loadbalances per session across the links with a check to see if the lines are still active to prevent blackholing. Gives you plenty bandwidth and is a fairly simple config.
 
roadcat said:
Can be done quite easily as well if you have a Cisco IOS device. 4 x DSL modems into a hub or switch into the router. Router loadbalances per session across the links with a check to see if the lines are still active to prevent blackholing. Gives you plenty bandwidth and is a fairly simple config.
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If its per session per line doesn't that mean you will need to have multiple sessions to utilize all the lines you have?
Peplink does 1 packet 1 line and next pack next line. Depending on what set up you use obviously..
 
MDKza said:
If its per session per line doesn't that mean you will need to have multiple sessions to utilize all the lines you have?
Peplink does 1 packet 1 line and next pack next line. Depending on what set up you use obviously..
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Per session per line is not ideal as it can result in one line being heavily utilised and another much quieter (i.e. a big FTP on one session, HTTP on another) but stops blackholing, allows use of multiple ISP's, and prevents weird routing issues from occurring.

It is also possible to check the load on the lines before setting the path for the next session to alleviate congestion on single links.
 
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