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Pitbull said:
I have not had a problem yet. Maybe try and switch the router off for an hour?
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Are you also on a 2Mbps account? Halving that would drive me up a wall...

Techies are doing a site survey on Wednesday for me. Hope I have LOS.
 
Hush9300 said:
Are you also on a 2Mbps account? Halving that would drive me up a wall...

Techies are doing a site survey on Wednesday for me. Hope I have LOS.
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Yea, also on a 2Mbps line.

Over the weekend I was also shaped to 1/2 speed the kids where watching videos on youtube with the ipad. I realised this while I was downloading revenge. Speeds was pretty slow :o. Switched off the router watched Robocop 2014 and when I switch it on again after about 1 and 1/2 hours it was fine again. I use it mainly for gaming so the speed is not that important the latency is. Up to date, have 0 complaints about latency.
 
Is that part of the user agreement, that the more you download / stream the worse you get hammered? So every now and then you must switch off your router for an hour to an hour and a half to get proper speed again?

Doesn't sound ideal at all to be honest, but I suppose you signed the contract knowing this.
 
CPTBoy said:
Is that part of the user agreement, that the more you download / stream the worse you get hammered? So every now and then you must switch off your router for an hour to an hour and a half to get proper speed again?

Doesn't sound ideal at all to be honest, but I suppose you signed the contract knowing this.
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Why is it not ideal? When you download at max line speed for an hour you get shapped. Once shaped you stop downloading again for 1 hour and it's fine again. I prefer this type of throttling as opposed to being allocated a certain allowance and then get throttled. Means constant speeds and latency any given day of the month. Normally on other speople rape the network the first few days and then it's just annoying and messes it up for everyone else.

Just my 2c's
 
Pitbull said:
Why is it not ideal? When you download at max line speed for an hour you get shapped. Once shaped you stop downloading again for 1 hour and it's fine again. I prefer this type of throttling as opposed to being allocated a certain allowance and then get throttled. Means constant speeds and latency any given day of the month. Normally on other speople rape the network the first few days and then it's just annoying and messes it up for everyone else.

Just my 2c's
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I'm not here to fight, it's just VERY backwards to switch off your internet totally to not be shaped. How much data do you move in a month?

So in your ideal world, on a Saturday you need to keep tabs of how many hours the kids are doing what, because they need to chill every hour because the internet needs to be switched off?

You are also being shaped to death, but it's all cool because I cannot have access for an hour at all, then it's all good again? So basically 12 hours internet a day in ideal conditions? It's a very interesting approach, but like I said, if you are cool with that, good for you.
 
Wikkels88 said:
Mmmmm ran some downloads through the night on my 2mb, and although I'm fine with the policy that your speeds get halved temporarily when you use it excessively, this is not on http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3564514537 first time I get a speed test this slow after downloads, and its not even business hours. Normally when I download, it gets dropped to about 0.9-1mbs on a speed test, with regular browsing you don't even notice it, but with 0.3 mbs speed it becomes obviously noticeably, have to sit and wait for every page to load
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What does the people with the 5mb connection have to say about this do you also get shaped to less than half of the speed if you are your conection is at the max for a long while on the agreed half speed?
 
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CPTBoy said:
I'm not here to fight, it's just VERY backwards to switch off your internet totally to not be shaped. How much data do you move in a month?

So in your ideal world, on a Saturday you need to keep tabs of how many hours the kids are doing what, because they need to chill every hour because the internet needs to be switched off?

You are also being shaped to death, but it's all cool because I cannot have access for an hour at all, then it's all good again? So basically 12 hours internet a day in ideal conditions? It's a very interesting approach, but like I said, if you are cool with that, good for you.
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To me, it's perfect. I don't download. If the kids get throttled to 1/2 line speed then so be it, they can go play outside. The line speed does not affect my gaming. If this was the case and I was a heavy dowloader I would just get a 10Mbps line then and throttled to 1/2 speed would still be 5Mbps then. It's about getting the package you require I suppose.
 
MEGASZA said:
What does the people with the 5mb connection have to say about this do you also get shaped to less than half of the speed if you are your conection is at the max for a long while on the agreed half speed?
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That is why I said he should switch off his router. I don't think that .3Mbps was correct there must have been something wrong. I have not been throttled to less than .9mbps
 
Pitbull said:
To me, it's perfect. I don't download. If the kids get throttled to 1/2 line speed then so be it, they can go play outside. The line speed does not affect my gaming. If this was the case and I was a heavy dowloader I would just get a 10Mbps line then and throttled to 1/2 speed would still be 5Mbps then. It's about getting the package you require I suppose.
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Suppose it makes sense for your situation, I just think it might be a bit hectic for normal users. I'm just thinking along the lines if you stream a movie say from the AppleTV and it's longer than an hour :p
 
CPTBoy said:
Suppose it makes sense for your situation, I just think it might be a bit hectic for normal users. I'm just thinking along the lines if you stream a movie say from the AppleTV and it's longer than an hour :p
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If you take the 5mb i can promise you that when that speed cuts to 2.5mb it is still going to stream better than any 4mb adsl...
 
CPTBoy said:
I'm not here to fight, it's just VERY backwards to switch off your internet totally to not be shaped. How much data do you move in a month?

So in your ideal world, on a Saturday you need to keep tabs of how many hours the kids are doing what, because they need to chill every hour because the internet needs to be switched off?

You are also being shaped to death, but it's all cool because I cannot have access for an hour at all, then it's all good again? So basically 12 hours internet a day in ideal conditions? It's a very interesting approach, but like I said, if you are cool with that, good for you.
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Think you're COMPLETELY misunderstanding here, nowhere did anyone say it HAS to be switched off, if you hammer the line a with downloads for a while, your line speed gets shaped to half the speed, if you stop downloading, and by this I dont mean switching off, you can still continue with normal internet usage, your speed will return to normal after an hour or so, but the shaping is by no means as insane as telkom's shaping... Normally while being shaped, I still manage to download at about 120KB/s on the 2mb option
 
CPTBoy said:
Suppose it makes sense for your situation, I just think it might be a bit hectic for normal users. I'm just thinking along the lines if you stream a movie say from the AppleTV and it's longer than an hour :p
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I have streamed something oneday for someone on here they wanted me to test. I watched the whole episode no problem though. Can't even recall what it was.
 
Wikkels88 said:
Think you're COMPLETELY misunderstanding here, nowhere did anyone say it HAS to be switched off, if you hammer the line a with downloads for a while, your line speed gets shaped to half the speed, if you stop downloading, and by this I dont mean switching off, you can still continue with normal internet usage, your speed will return to normal after an hour or so, but the shaping is by no means as insane as telkom's shaping... Normally while being shaped, I still manage to download at about 120KB/s on the 2mb option
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Don't you mean throttled? The way I understand it your whole line, effectively, goes down to half speed...right?
 
Sl8er said:
Don't you mean throttled? The way I understand it your whole line, effectively, goes down to half speed...right?
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For only one hour or so then it comes back to full speed, or would you rather be throttled for 10 days on adsl for downloading to much in a few days?
 
Wikkels88 said:
Think you're COMPLETELY misunderstanding here, nowhere did anyone say it HAS to be switched off, if you hammer the line a with downloads for a while, your line speed gets shaped to half the speed, if you stop downloading, and by this I dont mean switching off, you can still continue with normal internet usage, your speed will return to normal after an hour or so, but the shaping is by no means as insane as telkom's shaping... Normally while being shaped, I still manage to download at about 120KB/s on the 2mb option
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Thanks for clearing up. I am on a WISP by the way, just interesting seeing how other WISPs control their throughput.
 
Garth, I'm so disappointed. After not being able to get ADSL in my home I was so excited to hear about Bitco. Having moved a few months ago from the U.S., I was glad to finally find a provider on par in many ways with American providers. After going through all the process of application and waiting for installation eagerly, we were told today there is no LOS. Still stuck with expensive Telkom service and ration our internet usage. I guess we just have to get used to African internet limitations. :cry:
 
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