Blacks still waiting for better life: Vavi

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Most black South Africans are still waiting in vain for the better life they have been promised, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Thursday.

"The structures of domination and exclusion continue to find expression in our democratic dispensation," he told the National Union Mineworkers' central committee meeting in Boksburg, according to a copy of his speech.

"In the private sector, top management is 60 percent white male, 14 percent white female, nine percent African male and four percent African female."

Coloured and Indian men accounted for an average of four percent while women made up about 1.4 percent of top management.

"In other words 74 percent of top management of the South African economy is drawn from 12 percent of the population."

He found it a shame that the main benefits of transformation had gone more to white monopoly capital than to workers, and that the working class found itself wearing a "political crown without the economic jewel".

The working class had been restructured by capital, creating a two-tier labour market system.

The first layer of workers enjoyed most of the rights contained in the Constitution. They were covered by collective bargaining and enjoyed better work security and pay, Vavi said.

"The second layer are... super-exploited workers for whom joining a union is a personal risk and upward job mobility is an illusion."

"It is a large and growing army of workers employed in low-paid, temporary, casualised jobs or employed through the enslaving labour broking system."

South Africa was the world's most unequal society and still dominated by race, said Vavi quoting recent figures published by Statistics SA.

"An average African man earns in the region of R2400 per month, while an average white man earns around R19,000. The racial income gap is therefore roughly R16,800 among males."

Most white women earned in the region of R9600 monthly, whereas most black women earned R1200.


Vavi said health and education remained divided along racial lines. In the main black children's educational experience was marked by poor learning infrastructure, classroom overcrowding, high dropout rates and unsafe and dysfunctional schools.

There were equally glaring discrepancies in the quality of health care, with a first-world service for the wealthy in the private sector and a third-world service for the poor in the public sector.

He said 72 percent of the unemployed in the country were young people between 15 and 34 years of age. Of the unemployed youth, 78 percent were black.

"One thing... we can't claim that we have succeeded in building a non-racial democracy when apartheid still lives on in the economy and every aspect of our lives."

"As long as the black majority remain largely confined to the former Bantustans and black residential areas, living under conditions of squalor and poverty and no longer under racist laws but the new economic apartheid, to them non-racialism is far removed from their daily reality."

While the fault lines of the apartheid economy remained largely intact, he also blamed colonialism, apartheid and a "lack of strong, visionary and uncompromising leadership" post-1994 for the situation the country found itself in.

"Today comrades I want to say the situation we find ourselves in arises not only because we are still smarting from the effects of 300 years of colonialism and 40 years of apartheid. Increasingly, all the more so after 16 years, we are also reaping the benefits of a lack of strong, visionary and uncompromising leadership."

A culture of crass materialism had invaded the public sector and even "our revolutionary movement".

"Resources intended for the public good are being diverted to individuals' pockets so that the poor may be forever trapped in inequalities, poverty and unemployment. Crass materialism and greed threaten the foundations of our democracy," he said. - Sapa

Typical! It's all the white people's fault again. :mad:

He leaves it to a foot note to mention how the corrupt ANC fat cats are pocketing or diverting all the money intended for the upliftment of all South Africans. :rolleyes:
 
Boy quite a few of these threads around hehe!

The structures of domination and exclusion continue to find expression in our democratic dispensation

I think thats what a lot of us have been saying all along. Just earlier today I was intending to share some information that quite a few of the non-white workers who are employed by my dad often say the ANC has forgotten all about them and has isolated itself from reality, they say ANC are living in a castle while the rest of us live like poor people, forgotten and abandoned. Very sad to see them say stuff like that you can tell it bugs them a lot. One one occasion I was brave enough to tell the 4 of them to vote differently next time. They just laugh though, not sure what thats all about :erm:
 
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Typical! It's all the white people's fault again. :mad:

He leaves it to a foot note to mention how the corrupt ANC fat cats are pocketing or diverting all the money intended for the upliftment of all South Africans. :rolleyes:

damm you beat me to it ;)

I say they must stop fusking around and just kick us whites out so that they can have their utopia

this thread is crying out for kfc reject to come give his positive spin on this .. he will be here soon with his standard copy & paste answers.

well train the ancyl and do your thing - atleast on a positive note the followers of vavi and malema are the future leaders of this country ... our future sure looks rosy .. yipee!!
 
Maybe if they did not let 5 million zims in their problems may be less because zims will work 1/3 the pay.

We all know the majority of blacks are not actually better off than they were, sadly their own kind is giving it to them this time. One thing you can be sure of no matter how bad things are for them that anc box will be ticked.
 
my dad was recently called in by his financial adviser and warned that if he died before he retired the government gets 36% straight from his retirement payout upon death. This is more than a third of all the money that he has saved up over the last 50 years.

If he retires though, then he only pays the normal 20% tax on retirement income from his retirement plan.

This government taxes the working people to death.... and pockets all the cash.

The poor remain poor, not because the whites don't want them to have... we pay the most tax.
The poor remain poor because the ANC doesn't want to or doesn't know how to distribute our tax money to them.
 
Maybe if they did not let 5 million zims in their problems may be less because zims will work 1/3 the pay.

I must say I can understand why people employe the Zimbabwians : apart from being willing to work for less, a large number of the Zimbabwian people I have met are well educated and very intelligent.

That makes for a good employee - even if he is just a waiter, he brings a certain refinement to the job.
 
I'm a white male with a masters degree and i'm battling to find a job, i also don't know many white males who average an income of R 19 000.

More rubbish i think.
 
I must say I can understand why people employe the Zimbabwians : apart from being willing to work for less, a large number of the Zimbabwian people I have met are well educated and very intelligent.

That makes for a good employee - even if he is just a waiter, he brings a certain refinement to the job.

My dad has a qualified teacher for a gardener... its just sad
 
I must say I can understand why people employe the Zimbabwians : apart from being willing to work for less, a large number of the Zimbabwian people I have met are well educated and very intelligent.

That makes for a good employee - even if he is just a waiter, he brings a certain refinement to the job.

Very much so, all the zims i know as well are very intelligent. Clever and willing to work for less than the SA's. I also find they are extremely trust worthy, we have had domestics stealing from us and all have been SA, since we only employee zims for domestic work not a single person has been fired stealing.

The one domestic worked for me, my sis, my father. She stole stuff totally about 70 bucks and lost 3 days a week work. The logic behind that still baffles me. SA
 
Errr... because you are top of the earnings & jobs' charts;)
Does this mean you'll all stop whining about AA & BEE?

no, because I have paid more taxes in my life than you have earned in yours.
 
Very much so, all the zims i know as well are very intelligent. Clever and willing to work for less than the SA's. I also find they are extremely trust worthy, we have had domestics stealing from us and all have been SA, since we only employee zims for domestic work not a single person has been fired stealing.

The one domestic worked for me, my sis, my father. She stole stuff totally about 70 bucks and lost 3 days a week work. The logic behind that still baffles me. SA

Some time back, I was painting one of my rental apartments, and took a chap off the street - I could explain the whole days work to him, and then leave him on his own at the apartment while I was out and about for the day, and when I returned he'd washed all the brushes and rollers etc. and had done everything I'd asked and more - he's Zimbabwean, and I have his mobile number and call him whenever I need labour.
 
The problem with Vavi is often that he is so close to being right but misses several important marks. He's absolutely right that blacks in SA are still royally screwed. It's impossible for anyone who has driven through or near a township to say that everything is going well for them. But since the government are the people who are supposed to be delivering this transformation and the government is predominantly ANC led, it's not correct to say it's the fault of white business people.

Surely with the reach they now have the ANC could drive transformation more effectively? For a start, do away with OBE please.
 
"An average African man earns in the region of R2400 per month, while an average white man earns around R19,000. The racial income gap is therefore roughly R16,800 among males."

Rather look at those who is educated. Can't change those thousands that is uneducated.
 
maybe it's time to try the white man's way again, you know discipline, education, hard working, ambition, loyalty, you know the things that really make companies make money. Or is it still to early ?
 
"In the private sector, top management is 60 percent white male, 14 percent white female, nine percent African male and four percent African female."

Coloured and Indian men accounted for an average of four percent while women made up about 1.4 percent of top management.


and the problem is?
 
"Blacks still waiting for better life" ...

... yeah, you know that old saying "pray to god, but in the meantime swim for the river bank"

Well some people are just drowning lol
 
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