Brain waves separate conservatives from liberals

[Leitmotif]

Sigh. I'm a libertarian. It doesn't mean 'partying conservative' - it means supporting the personal rights of ordinary people rather than sacrificing rights for some sort of nebulous greater good. It means encouraging responsibility and freedom rather than safety by restriction.

 

[Xarog]

Sigh. I'm a libertarian. It doesn't mean 'partying conservative' - it means supporting the personal rights of ordinary people rather than sacrificing rights for some sort of nebulous greater good. It means encouraging responsibility and freedom rather than safety by restriction.

And yet we still have laws against murder and armed robbery and so forth.

While I have much sympathy with the libertarian point of view, it is simply incomplete.

 

[w1z4rd]

Conservative.. to conserve. Since were destroying ourselves and the environment .. I dont see much need to conserve... I see more need for change.

 

[w1z4rd]

While I have much sympathy with the libertarian point of view, it is simply incomplete.

Humans wont be ready for a libertarian view for centuries, which is why I prefer liberal at the moment.

 

[Xarog]

Conservative.. to conserve. Since were destroying ourselves and the environment .. I dont see much need to conserve... I see more need for change.

Agreed 100%.

 

[kilo39]

Sigh. I'm a libertarian. It doesn't mean 'partying conservative' - it means supporting the personal rights of ordinary people rather than sacrificing rights for some sort of nebulous greater good. It means encouraging responsibility and freedom rather than safety by restriction.

If this is true then you are not a libertarian. The libertarian has striking resemblance to 'the neocon.' They come from the same source (so make up your mind!?)

Neocons and libetarians have given up on the greater good: now they prefer to force the world their way (invariably for their own enrichment, and loss of rights for others.) Perhaps you are a libertarian after all.

Neoconservatism is a political movement that emerged as a rejection of liberalism and the New Left counter-culture of the 1960s. It was formulated in the 1950s, achieved its first victory in the nomination of Barry Goldwater as the Republican Presidential candidate in 1964[citation needed], and coalesced in the 1970s. It was influential in the Reagan administration, George H. W. Bush administration, and the George W. Bush administration. It represented a realignment in American politics and the defection of "an important and highly articulate group of liberals to the other side." Because the neoconservatives were familiar with liberalism, they were able to criticize it more effectively than previous generations of conservatives, and one of their accomplishments was "to make criticism from the right acceptable in the intellectual, artistic, and journalistic circles where conservatives had long been regarded with suspicion."

The term neoconservative was first used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington to make clear that a group, many of whom called themselves liberal, was actually a group of newly conservative ex-liberals. The name eventually stuck, both because it was reasonably accurate, and because neoconservatives came to accept that they were, in fact, conservative. The idea that liberalism "no longer knew what it was talking about" became one of the central themes of neoconservatism, and by the 1980s, being considered a conservative was far from an insult.
Neoconservatism

 

[JK8]

A conservative is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt:

A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward.

G. K. Chesterton:

The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.

G. K. Chesterton:

All conservatism is based upon the idea that if you leave things alone you leave them as they are. But you do not. If you leave a thing alone you leave it to a torrent of change.

George H. W. Bush:

I'm conservative, but I'm not a nut about it.

Hannah Arendt:

It is well known that the most radical revolutionary will become a conservative on the day after the revolution.

James W. Skillen:

American liberals and conservatives share much of the same political heritage. Originally the term Liberal referred to the political and economic ideal of liberating individuals from unrepresentative and arbitrary governments. Early liberalism set in motion patterns for the rule of law that would guarantee individual rights, representation in law making, access to the courts, and protection of private property. Both conservatives and liberals are Liberal in this sense. But whereas American conservatives of various stripes have continued to place primary emphasis on individual freedom, the autonomy of private institutions, and limits to government in the economic area, American liberals have more frequently appealed to government to advance the liberation of individuals from economic, racial, and political disadvantages in society as a whole.

Jane Auer:

It may be true that the government that governs best governs least. Unfortunately, the same is also true of the government that governs worst.

John Kenneth Galbraith:

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Stuart Mill:

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

Leo C. Rosten:

A conservative is one who admires radicals centuries after they're dead.

Mark Twain:

The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them.

Mignon McLaughlin:

Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers.

Mort Sahl:

Liberals feel unworthy of their possessions. Conservatives feel they deserve everything they've stolen.

P. J. O'Rourke:

The Democrats are the party of government activism, the party that says government can make you richer, smarter, taller, and get the chickweed out of your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then get elected and prove it.

Paul Weyrich:

We are different from previous generations of conservatives. We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure of this country.

Paulo Freire:

Education either functions as an instrument which is used to facilitate integration of the younger generation into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity or it becomes the practice of freedom, the means by which men and women deal critically and creatively with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world.

Peter C. Newman:

Conservatives usually prefer twin beds, which may contribute to the fact that Canada has more Liberals.

Ralph Waldo Emerson:

The two parties which divide the state, the party of Conservatism and that of Innovation, are very old, and have disputed the possession of the world ever since it was made.

The Conservative


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

Conservatism makes no poetry, breathes no prayer, has no invention; it is all memory. Reform has no gratitude, no prudence, no husbandry.

The Conservative


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

Reform is affirmative, conservatism negative; conservatism goes for comfort, reform for truth.

The Conservative


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

Conservatism is more candid to behold another's worth; reform more disposed to maintain and increase its own.

The Conservative


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

We are reformers in spring and summer; in autumn and winter, we stand by the old; reformers in the morning, conservers at night.

The Conservative


Ralph Waldo Emerson:

Conservatism stands on man's confessed limitations; reform on his indisputable infinitude; conservatism on circumstance; liberalism on power; one goes to make an adroit member of the social frame; the other to postpone all things to the man himself; conservatism is debonnair and social; reform is individual and imperious.

The Conservative


Robert Anton Wilson:

It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.

 

[Alan]

No surprise this thread is bringing out the posse

 

[icyrus]

No surprise this thread is bringing out the posse

You don't always have to play the victim, and it would also be helpful to remember that people with different views are not the enemy.

 

[antowan]

Bs Imo.